Em sáb, 13 de abr de 2019 20:36, Leonid Bobrov <mazoc...@disroot.org> escreveu:
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 01:12:06PM -0300, Quantum Robin wrote: > > Em sáb, 13 de abr de 2019 04:23, Chris Bennett < > > cpb_m...@bennettconstruction.us> escreveu: > > > > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 01:55:21AM -0300, Quantum Robin wrote: > > > > Are there operating > > > > systems that ship without blobs? > > > > > > > > If yes, what are the operating > > > > systems that ship without blobs? > > > > > > OpenBSD does not ship with blobs. Ever. > > > That was a major theme s number of years ago. > > > > > > Firmware is not considered a blob since this is strictly hardware > > > related code. No firmware, device won't work. > > > > > > Nvidia is an excellent example of a company 100% hostile to Open Source > > > code. They refuse to release anything needed to even allow someone to > > > write the necessary firmware/software. > > > > > > So, anything that fully supports Nvidia is running proprietary secret > > > blobs. Yuck. These blobs may be harmless, but who knows? > > > > > > So if you are shopping for an OS, you can put a checkmark for OpenBSD > in > > > the no blobs list. > > > > > > Beyond that, the list may or may not want to discuss other OS's. > > > Probably not. > > > > > > Since this topic has come up and it's personally useful to me to reply > > > elsewhere about security elsewhere right now, could someone reply to > > > both of us off-list about this topic? > > > > > > Otherwise, we are getting into other OS junk that IMHO is not > > > appropriate here. > > > > > > Chris Bennett > > > > > > > In the past, Theo de Raadt said: > > > > "3. mail from Theo, 12.03.2007 03:00: > > > > Did you even think about the fact that there are only two operating > systems > > that ship without blobs? > > > > OpenBSD > > > > Debian (and derived systems)" > > > > Why Theo de Raadt said in past here in misc openbsd that was fact that > > existed only two operating systems that did ship without blobs if is > truth > > that this is a list for OpenBSD, not op systems in general? > > > > > > > Theo missed GNU/Linux-libre distros recommended by FSF, they don't > include blobs and non-free firmware. Also GNU/Hurd has no blobs and > no non-free firmware, right? > Leonid Bobrov, Do Theo de Raadt agree with you that he missed GNU/Linux-libre distros recommended by FSF don't include blobs and non-free firmware and that GNU/Hurd has no blobs and no non-free firmware? Theo de Raadt, Do you agree with Leonid Bobrov that GNU/Linux-libre distros recommended by FSF don't include blobs and non-free firmware and that GNU/Hurd has no blobs and no non-free firmware? If not, why you do not agree with Leonid Bobrov that GNU/Linux-libre distros recommended by FSF don't include blobs and non-free firmware and that GNU/Hurd has no blobs and no non-free firmware? >
