On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 01:12:06PM -0300, Quantum Robin wrote: > Em sáb, 13 de abr de 2019 04:23, Chris Bennett < > cpb_m...@bennettconstruction.us> escreveu: > > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 01:55:21AM -0300, Quantum Robin wrote: > > > Are there operating > > > systems that ship without blobs? > > > > > > If yes, what are the operating > > > systems that ship without blobs? > > > > OpenBSD does not ship with blobs. Ever. > > That was a major theme s number of years ago. > > > > Firmware is not considered a blob since this is strictly hardware > > related code. No firmware, device won't work. > > > > Nvidia is an excellent example of a company 100% hostile to Open Source > > code. They refuse to release anything needed to even allow someone to > > write the necessary firmware/software. > > > > So, anything that fully supports Nvidia is running proprietary secret > > blobs. Yuck. These blobs may be harmless, but who knows? > > > > So if you are shopping for an OS, you can put a checkmark for OpenBSD in > > the no blobs list. > > > > Beyond that, the list may or may not want to discuss other OS's. > > Probably not. > > > > Since this topic has come up and it's personally useful to me to reply > > elsewhere about security elsewhere right now, could someone reply to > > both of us off-list about this topic? > > > > Otherwise, we are getting into other OS junk that IMHO is not > > appropriate here. > > > > Chris Bennett > > > > In the past, Theo de Raadt said: > > "3. mail from Theo, 12.03.2007 03:00: > > Did you even think about the fact that there are only two operating systems > that ship without blobs? > > OpenBSD > > Debian (and derived systems)" > > Why Theo de Raadt said in past here in misc openbsd that was fact that > existed only two operating systems that did ship without blobs if is truth > that this is a list for OpenBSD, not op systems in general? > > >
Theo missed GNU/Linux-libre distros recommended by FSF, they don't include blobs and non-free firmware. Also GNU/Hurd has no blobs and no non-free firmware, right?
