Philip
I’ve recreated a wireless connectivity issue with the OpenBSD 6.2 machine 
powered off & RJ45 disconnected.
At this point I’m chalking things up to living in proximity to a airport.
In effort to resolve the issue I’ve implemented a spare hawking AP.
Regards
Patrick

> On Dec 30, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Philip Guenther <guent...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, Patrick Dohman wrote:
>> I’m looking to determine if the cause of intermittent subnet 
>> “collisions” that necessitate power cycle of numerous networks hosts is 
>> the result of OpenBSD security configurations
> 
> You haven't described your setup or what you're actually running on your 
> OpenBSD box, so I don't know how OpenBSD is even *involved* in what you're 
> asking about.
> 
> ...
>> Essentially If security configurations that disable for example 
>> broadcast echo & address mask query can lead to unexpected results. For 
>> example MTU size & TCP window scaling options requiring the results of a 
>> broadcast ICMP echo.
> 
> Path MTU detection is dependent on ICMP "fragmentation required" 
> responses, but OpenBSD generates, processes, and passes those by default.  
> TCP window scaling is not dependent on any sort of ICMP.
> 
> 
>> Or if unintended result of the stateless UDP traffic never reaching it’s 
>> destination due to security config can result in ICMP UDP MTU errors.
> 
> Uh, no.
> 
> Frankly, this sounds like grasping at straws; you need to pause and 
> actually write down *testable* details before trying to come up with
> (more) hypotheses.  As I wrote before:
> 
>>> If the latter, then you should take it down a level and describe what you 
>>> tried to do, what you expected to see "on the wire/in the air", and what 
>>> you _actually_ saw there?
> 
> 
> Philip Guenther

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