Thank you, Theo, for the history and clarification. It's always good to
hear stories like this.

I'm building a IPv6 lab and I was trying to figure out fact from
fiction.
 

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > I've been reading about IPv6 and the KAME project. 
> > 
> > I read that OpenBSD integrated just IPv6 code rather than both (having
> > developed their own IPSec stack).
> > 
> > The information that I'm reading is from 2004. Does anyone who if this
> > is still true?
> 
> KAME had a v6 stack that included ipsec.  On the other hand, some of
> their routing logic was highly immature and incomplete, and would have
> mirrored code that was already in the BSD kernel.
> 
> In OpenBSD land, an IPSEC stack was already far in development, by
> angelos;
> it was a packet defer architecture that could work with hardware crypto
> engines, and used the standard routing table for policy decision logic.
> 
> There is a third part to the story.  Craig Metz bad adapted the routing
> logic in the kernel to make it v6 ready.  itojun recognized merging of
> these codebases as a good direction forward. 
> 
> So itojun, cmetz and angelos came up with a plan to merge the right
> parts together and started it, then a bit later over a week the job
> was completed at the first openbsd hackathon in my house, Jun 4 - 6,
> 1999.  (Oddly, I now believe it was longer than 3 days, but it is hard
> to remember 17 years back).
> 
> We believe that day was the first time ipv6 worked in a full official
> operating system, and same with ipsec, and same with ipsec over ipv6
> (i recall that being a lot more flaky, but it was early days).  Other
> ipv6 work by other teams had just been "testbeds", not fully targetted
> towards complete integration and shipping.
> 
> Off in FreeBSD land, a bit later, they were connected to different
> members of the KAME team, and instead opted to integrate KAME v6 +
> ipsec as-is.  About 10 years later, they saw the light and integrated
> angelos's ipsec stack as well as an option, probably because it the
> crypto offload / cpu crypto instruction awareness (which is largely
> due the ability of the forwarding path to defer packet crypto job in a
> staged forwarding path, which I convinced angelos to build in support
> of how hardware engines would work).  A few years ago they finished
> that switchover.
> 
> that help?

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