Hi Marcus, Marcus MERIGHI wrote on Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 02:22:55PM +0200:
> But be warned (it's biting me a bit): using ``rcctl disable xxxxxx'' > doesn't just remove xxxxxx from pkg_scripts, it removes the > xxxxxx_flags as well. In case you had carefully crafted command line > parameters there, the simple ``rcctl disable'' command might make you > unhappy. (rcctl disable is not reversed by rcctl enable, that is.) > > Question: why does "rcctl disable xxxxxx" not just remove xxxxxx from > pkg_scripts? (But also removes xxxxxx_flags.) It's a carefully pondered design decision. The rcctl(8) utility is intended for use by management frameworks taking care of many machines at once. In such a context, it is useful to keep configuration files in a clean, normalized state, and information stored on individual machines is not only useless; in general, it even tends to obstruct automated changes. You don't have your carefully crafted flags in rc.conf.local(8) on one single machine, but in some central place. Of course, you are welcome to run it manually, too, but the requirements of management frameworks constrain the design quite a bit, so there is not that much room left for decisions to improve convenience for manual use. > Removing the xxxxxx_flags could be done via > ``rcctl disable xxxxxx flags ""'' if really wanted, no? Well, in case we would implement saving flags for disabled services, the quotes would be useless. Remember: rcctl enable identd flags " " -> identd_flags=" " # in /etc/rc.conf.local -> identd will start without flags rcctl enable identd flags -> identd_flags= -> identd will start with default flags (-e) rcctl enable identd -> no change if already enabled -> enable with default flags if disabled But i don't think we will support saving flags for disabled daemons. It's just additional complexity for little gain, and there is a risk to confuse people who look at /etc/rc.conf.local and don't remember whether it's a base or a package daemon. Besides, if you really want to keep the flags when disabling, firing up sudoedit(8) and manually editing pkg_scripts is not significantly more keystrokes than "rcctl disable xxxxxx". > And while I'm in asking mode: the rcctl(8) ``default'' command cannot > have values for non-base services/daemons, right? It can: $ rcctl default wesnothd -d $ rcctl default saslauthd -a getpwent Yours, Ingo
