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Have a question about the results of running /usr/ports/infrastructure/build/./out-of-date. Here is the output from it: Make sure your ports tree is up-to-date Generating specs Checking new package names Recording old package names Showing discrepancies - --- /tmp/outdated.IJmN26992/old Sat Dec 3 12:02:14 2005 +++ /tmp/outdated.IJmN26992/new Sat Dec 3 12:02:14 2005 @@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ libiconv-1.9.2p1 libltdl-1.5.18 mergemaster-1.46p0 - -mozilla-firefox-1.0.6p3 +mozilla-firefox-1.0.6p4 pine-4.63 png-1.2.8 tcl-8.4.7p1 Before installing mozilla-firefox, running ./out-of-date showed nothing needing updating. I had installed the normal programs I use here at home. Pine, fetchmail, gnupg, gpgme, cvsup, mergemaster. No problems. I installed obsd 3.8 release off the cd along with src, sys, XF4, ports. Then did a cvsup to a local backup drive (complete tree), cd into /usr/src, ran `cvs -d$CVSROOT -rOPENBSD_3_8 up -Pd', did the same for /usr/ports & /usr/XF4, rebuilt kernel & installed & rebooted (everything worked ok), rebuilt userland making sure /usr/obj was clean & running beforehand the usual `cd /usr/src/etc && env DESTDIR=/ make distrib-dirs' & after running `cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/httpd && make -f Makefile.bsd- wrapper distribution' & then mergemaster, rebuilt /usr/XF4, everything still okay up to installing mozilla-firefox package. I haven't been building ports as I have no particular special needs to build in, just installing packages with `pkg_add ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.8/packages/i386/prog.tgz'. The same thing had happened previously when I had installed fluxbox. Blackbox didn't give the same problem, but now mozilla-firefox is. Here's uname -a output: `OpenBSD badboybox.cableone.net 3.8 GENERIC#0 i386' &, if needed, here's the output of dmesg: OpenBSD 3.8-stable (GENERIC) #0: Fri Dec 2 01:25:13 CST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium III ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 601 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 267952128 (261672K) avail mem = 237613056 (232044K) using 3296 buffers containing 13500416 bytes (13184K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(a7) BIOS, date 01/31/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb4f0 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf0000/0xb970 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdd90/144 (7 entries) pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 9 10 11 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 ("VIA VT82C596A ISA" rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0x8000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "VIA VT82C691 PCI" rev 0xc4 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "VIA VT82C598 AGP" rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "VIA VT82C686 ISA" rev 0x22 pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "VIA VT82C571 IDE" rev 0x10: ATA66, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: <WDC WD300BB-00AUA1> wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 28629MB, 58633344 sectors wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: <WDC WD400BB-00AUA1> wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06> SCSI0 5/cdrom removable atapiscsi1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1 scsibus1 at atapiscsi1: 2 targets cd1 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <ASUS, CD-S500/A, 1.0K> SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 cd1(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x10: irq 9 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x10: irq 9 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered viaenv0 at pci0 dev 7 function 4 "VIA VT82C686 SMBus" rev 0x30 auvia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 5 "VIA VT82C686 AC97" rev 0x20: irq 5 ac97: codec id 0x83847644 (SigmaTel STAC9744/45) ac97: codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, SigmaTel 3D audio0 at auvia0 fxp0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 "Intel 82557" rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 00:d0:b7:ba:15:09 inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 vga1 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "3DFX Interactive Voodoo3" rev 0x01 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker> spkr0 at pcppi0 sysbeep0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec biomask e745 netmask ef45 ttymask ffc7 pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80 wd1: no disk label dkcsum: wd1 matches BIOS drive 0x81 root on wd0a rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302 wsdisplay0: screen 6 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 7 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) Before installing release from cd, I had previously been running current to learn more & had, against instructions, rebuilt everything numerous times with no particular bad results. Found the same problem then with packages, where if I built from ports instead, no problem with ./out-of-date. I know everyone's busy with development, running production systems & so forth. This is not a production machine, just a learning device for me, so this isn't urgent. Just trying to learn what I'm doing wrong. Fine system for all I can see so far. I've been running fbsd for a long time now on my old hp netserver & am relatively new to obsd, especially to the way ports are handled. Used to running portupgrade & associated programs like portversion in fbsd. Thanks for any help I can get. Denny White GnuPG key : 0x1644E79A | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net Fingerprint: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E 0E67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A iD8DBQFDkeb8y0Ty5RZE55oRAvBmAJoDfS6lE3dFQMO6wp+G4S8xqwDm3gCgsFUY oB45Xmw1C94q+4e4hZNrwAk= =GAjW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----