On 04/03/14 22:04, Martin Braun wrote:
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> Maybe I am just plain stupid, but could someone explain to me the point in
> "bragging" about only two remote holes in the default install, when the
> default install is useless before you add some content to the system,
> unless you're running a web server serving static content only.

I have no idea what is your diagnosis as I am trained as a mathematician
not as a physician. However I think I can address the "useless" part of
your question. I work in a robotics lab of a major research university
lab where we use default OpenBSD install for pretty much our entire
network infrastructure with exception of our file servers.  Just to set
the record straight I will list explicitly services I am personally
running of a default installation:

1. Firewall
2. VPN gateway(/etc/rc.d/npppd)
3. DHCP server (/etc/rc.d/dhcpd)
4. DNS (/etc/rc.d/unbound)
5. LDAP server (/etc/rc.d/ldapd)
6. Mail server (/etc/rc.d/smtpd)
7. NTP server (/etc/rc.d/ntpd)
8. Web server (/etc/rc.d/nginx)
9. sftp server with chrooted accounts
10. ssh gateway
11. Code repository (CVS)
12. My servers back up themselves using cron and altroot mechanism.
13. My servers monitor themselves with snmpd, sensorsd, and log files.
14. We use softraid to fully encrypted laptops. 


I do not know if the above list looks impressive to you but for me it
looks damn impressive. With small add on or with home brewed Perl script
you can easily poll SNMP daemons from other machines making your
OpenBSD server monitor tool for entire lab. With a small add on I run
our bugtracker of essentially stock Nginx. 

Now I could theoretically run a NFS file server of a default OpenBSD
installation but I like Hammer better than FFS or FFS2. The default
installation has everything for a C, C++, ADA, Fortran, Perl, or Lua
developer. 

Now being trained as a mathematician I have to sadly notice that I can
not do mathematics out of box on OpenBSD because TeX is very strange
public domain software (TRIP test) but I am sure if Don changes his mind
and really puts TeX in a public domain kerTeX will become quickly a
part of the base.

> No!

> By easier to maintain it means "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade"
> which is freaking neat!

I thought that the April fool's date was a few days ago.

> You can say what you want about Debian, but their apt system is
> exceptional! Especially between versions.

I do not like to use Linux but when I have to use I use only RedHat
clones. I am sick of listening about Debian repositories. I am running
all the latest and greatest software on my PUIAS 6.5 machines. You have
to know your Yum. MATLAB, Oracle or any other serious proprietary
vendor supports only RedHat.

Cheers,
Predrag

P.S. I wanted to suggest that you go little bit through /etc/rc.d/ but
after reading that things about apt-get I do not think there is a point.
Just stick with Debian and stay away from OpenBSD.

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