On Apr 04 04:04:47, yellowgoldm...@gmail.com wrote:
> As we all know on the front page of OpenBSD it says "Only two remote holes
> in the default install, in a heck of a long time".
> I don't understand why this is "such a big deal".

Look at the history of other systems and their remote holes.
Don't you think OpenBSD stands out in this regard?

> A part from the base system in xBSD, OpenBSD - so far - also contains a
> chrooted web server, that can't be used for much else than serving static
> content, and then the X system, which also can't be used for anything
> before installing some third party application.

What do you mean, "apart from the base system"?
nginx _is_ in the base system.

X and the WMs can be used for their main purpose:
a couple of well organized xterms.

More importantly, the base system also contains
a TON of other usefull stuff. Do you pretend
to not know this, or do you not know this?

> All in all the default install is pretty useless 

Ah, so the firewall, the dhcp, the mail server, the nameserver,
carp, bgpd, sndiod, none of that counts, right? Unbelievable.

> So we need those third party applications to start the party,

"Party" suggests you come from linux. Right?

> Maybe I am just plain stupid, but could someone explain to me the point in
> "bragging" about only two remote holes in the default install, when the
> default install is useless before you add some content to the system,
> unless you're running a web server serving static content only.

Or a mail server. Or a firewall. Or a nameserver. Or a router.
Or run an audio streaming server with midi (yes, that's in base).
Or do software development in C or Perl or shell.

But you are right, most of my machines are pretty boring.
They just sit there doing what they are suppossed to.
No "party" there.

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