On 11/28/05, Jeremy David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just wanted to point that your original argument was wrong. You said "fix > > it because it is broken for people", which is not true. > > I would say that it is. "Broken" doesn't necessarily mean that it > makes your browser crash. When you look at www.openbsd.org in lynx, > every page has a bunch of links at the top that you have to scroll > through endlessly in order to get to the content. It looks nice in > Firefox, but not in browsers that a lot of people use, especially the > kinds of people who want to use OpenBSD. For those people who use > lynx, www.openbsd.org is a frustrating challenge to navigate.
Humm, we are certainly not looking at the same site. _Only_ the root page has that menu, and that makes sense, since it is the useful content of that page. I think it is very usable with lynx. > Similarly for the blind who use a text reader to read them the content > on the web page, lists are not identified as such in the code, and > therefore someone using an alternative way of getting information from > the web can't find what they're looking for without a lot of > frustration. Saying that it works for me OK right now is simply not > good enough. As it has been said several times in more or less polite terms, saying it is not working for someone without pointing to a "real problem" is not good enough. > Well, I believe that fixing it right the first time will save you some > panic and further problems in the future. But it will waste time now and introduce other problems. Panic is a bit strong. The world will not collapse when an hypothetic brand-new browser will not show the openbsd site correctly. > The idea has been mentioned in this thread that it's too difficult to > make websites work in multiple browsers and still be valid. That idea > is simply incorrect. Here's an example. http://www.cerealport.com/?p=8 - the white text is difficult to read because of the lack of constrast with the image in background. - why do I have to click on the menu entry to expand them? what about the accessibility? - the overal look is not much better than the openbsd site. > I believe that fixing it now will get the content of openbsd.org, > which is superb, into the minds of everyone who is looking for it, now > and in the future. It also conforts people who think all that glitters is gold, instead of encouraging critical thinking. Eric.