On Feb 16, 2013, at 5:28 AM, Vadim Zhukov <persg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2013/2/16 Fil DiNoto <fdin...@gmail.com>: >> But this is all off-topic, I'm not slaming pf in any way i love it. I >> was just saying it can't hurt to try to emulate what people know if at >> all possible. And the fact is that junos/ios have the market share so >> thats what people know. Sorry, Vadim, for responding to Fil through your email. I think there is a real risk to trying to present an interface that is reminiscent of other systems, that behave differently and do less. People will begin to expect that pf does the same things - no more, no less. Power that is specific to pf over other systems will be ignored, because people will think that since they are familiar with the interface they know what they're doing. Presenting a different interface is a FANTASTIC way to communicate 'difference' to the user. It forces them to think about the difference sooner, rather than when things aren't working as expected (or after they've bought more equipment on top of the OpenBSD firewall because "JunOS can't do that"). If that means people don't learn pf because they realize very quickly that it's unlike anything they know... That is a SERVICE being provided. They knew they didn't have the time to figure it out before they got ass-deep into it. -- Matthew Weigel hacker unique & idempot . ent