T,

AHHHHHHHH!! Oh Yes....
I see what you are doing...

Ah-hahaha, Yes - I agree
Talk is so much puff...

We need to DO...

Time to work on CoreBoot or our own (who else will
do it?) aftermarket BIOS solutions...

Mike's plan:
1) Get EPROM programmer with PLCC adaptor
2) Get surface mount torch
3) Take over the world...

Mike


On 07/07/12 16:05, Theo de Raadt wrote:
Be realistic.  Talking about it on misc won't change anything.

Dear <Your name should be here ;-) >,

I have been considering the implications for BSD and
Linux and any non-MS O/S of the implementation of UEFI
Secure Boot (SB).

As I understand it, ARM devices wishing to receive Win8 cert
are required to enable SB by default and prevent the disabling
of SB.

Meanwhile, x86 devices are supposed to ship with SB enabled
but allow disabling...

For some commentators, the x86 situation has been presented
as MS leaving a back-door for other OSes such as BSD or Linux
etc. i.e. "Don't worry about it"

I think it is, in fact, that MS is seeking to temporarily provide a
back-door for Win XP, Vista and Win7.

As each MS OS reaches end-of-paid-for-support (e.g. XP in 2014)
MS will slowly relax the UEFI SB specification such that the ability to
disable SB will gradually disappear from x86-based devices.

I am surprised that there is so little discussion of this developing
situation on BSD and/or Linux lists because for me, the red lights
are flashing, all bells and hooters are sounding,
"We gotta get out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

We are potentially talking about the end of BSD (or Linux...) on x86
hardware.

Am I overly pessimistic? Have I missed something?

OR

Am I Jeremiah shouting "There's a flood coming! There's a f******
flood coming, PEOPLE!" while everybody else is roasting sausages
on their barbecues?

Mike

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