On 06/27/2012 10:19 AM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote:
Really? Can we do that? Seems, by this thread and previous about this subject,
that nobody is waiting for any diffs regarding this....
- Alvaro
Of course, you can do anything you wish.
No one is EXPECTING quality diffs, for our definition of "quality", and
therefore, waiting would be silly. But...if someone shows us something
that is a REAL improvement and not just window dressing, or moving stuff
for the sake of moving stuff, I'm sure we'd look at it.
Most of what we've seen in the past has been AT BEST, shuffling things
around to be more aesthetically pleasing to the one doing the shuffling,
and indifferent to most of the rest of us. Maybe that says something
about us, but have you actually LOOKED at any OpenBSD developers lately?
Provinding visual pleasure is NOT our strong point!
The ones that get our attention are the ones that say, "here, I
redesigned a few pages of your website, what do you think?" We
(obviously) haven't seen one that made us think, "Wow, that's what we
need to do!", but it shows someone cared enough to put some work behind
their words.
Others in this thread have described what would need to be maintained in
any "improvement". Let me add (as I don't think it was mentioned),
static pages, managed by CVS, able to be mirrored by anyone, publicly or
privately. Multiple rendering options would be nice. Oh, and we need to
keep support for translations to other languages.
Keep in mind, I don't think anyone in the project sees any major
PROBLEMS with the current website "desing", so you must not break
anything that developers like right now. This will be difficult.
The most interesting suggestion I've heard was to switch to mdoc-based
source, then use that to generate html. Note the lack of any cool HTML
buzzwords in that statement (and the end goal would be to end up with
something that looks and feels very similar to the current site, so I'm
sure the "suggestions" to improve the design would continue), but this
might actually IMPROVE things for developers (saner layout language,
known by virtually all the developers) hopefully leading to better
consistency for readers, and a bunch of other wild ideas that I'm not
ready to talk about publicly yet. Maybe one of those "Lottery" e-mails
I keep getting will turn out to be true, allowing me to devote more time
to this. :)
Something about doing a
.Xr cat 1
instead of the monstrosity which is a man page link currently is just SO
bloomin' attractive to me...
Nick.
El 27/06/2012, a las 02:12, Eric Furman escribió:
We are all anxiously awaiting your diffs...
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 07:52 PM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote:
Why is not possible to apply a new css style to the current site? That
has
nothing to do with joomla (and similar) and would keep the site fast and
compatible with, let's say....lynx or whatever browser do you want to try
with
the site.
I mean, for me the site is ok but a new css style could be a great thing
too.
Same speed, same compatibility, new design.
- Alvaro
El 26/06/2012, a las 16:25, STeve Andre' escribió:
On 06/26/12 17:57, Pablo Velasco Fernández wrote:
I mean.. A modern style.
El 26/06/2012 23:55, "Miod Vallat"<m...@online.fr> escribió:
Hi. I was loolong the FreeBSD web page. And its a cool page with a
cool
desing. Maybe OpenBSD should change their own page to a most "visual"
web
page. ( Its only my opinion ) What do you think?
Last time I checked, you could use eyes to browse the OpenBSD website.
Why do you consider it non-visual?
Miod
OK, a modern style.
But why? Why is it that a web site that does what web sites should
do--convey information--have to be redesigned in order to keep up
with other sites? I see this all the time, at work where people seem
to think that things like Joomla<cough> are a good thing. I shouldn't
say just work, as I see it everywhere.
The OpenBSD site is simple and fast. I keep it in /usr/www which
consumes 291M as of today.
It's a great web site as it is.
--STeve Andre'
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