Jan Stary <h...@stare.cz> writes:

> On Jun 10 13:42:28, Martin Pieuchot wrote:
>> On 10/06/12(Sun) 12:51, Jan Stary wrote:
>> > I got this Mac Mini on my hands, and I would like to install
>> > current/macppc on it. According to
...
> I only have the minimac, not the other apple paraphernalia;
> in particular, I don't have an apple keyboard, so there's
> no way for me to press "cmd+alt+o+f". According to INSTALL.macppc,
> it's "Command + Option + O + F" actually; is there a way to
> do that on a non-apple keyboard? I have the usual PC keyboard
> attached to it via USB.

I'm not sure why, but I've found that my Happy Hacker usb keyboard will
not get me to the openfirmware prompt on my powermac3,4 when holding its
equivalent to [Cmd Option O F]. I gave up on it for that purpose and
bought a used Apple keyboard I keep in the closet for when I need to do
that.

>
> ANyway, even a non-apple keyborad makes it possibel, obviously,
> to boot while holding [C] pressed. What could be the reason
> it doesn't work?

It's not obvious to me that [C] should work with a non-Apple keyboard
because I don't know the reason [Cmd Option O F] doesn't work. If I
remember rightly, the happy hacker had toggle switches for PC vs. Mac
mode which I tried without success, so I wonder if it's not something
more than the keyboard not sending the right key code for cmd or option.
e.g. do keyboards need to have their state initialized in some way at
start up?  Does OpenBSD do this correctly while Open Firmware has no
clue what it's talking to? I would try [C] on mine to see if it works
with the Happy Hacker, but I don't think Apple had introduced that
feature yet when the Digital Audio PowerMac came out (hey, my computer's
still newer than my car and twice as new as my bicycle so stop yer
snickering).

- Mike

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