On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Dewey Hylton <dewey.hyl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "corey clingo" <clinge...@gmail.com>
>> To: misc@openbsd.org
>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:05:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: looking for hardware recommendations, x86 or otherwise.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Dewey Hylton
>> <dewey.hyl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > if you feel this is a tired and worn-out question, then please just
>> > move
>> along.
>> >
>> > two systems on which i'm happily running openbsd on are:
>> > alix and mac mini. alix for firewalls/thin clients, and the mac
>> > mini can
>> handle pretty much anything i throw at it. both are relatively cheap
>> (new alix
>> and used minis) and function well. in addition to firewalls/thin
>> clients, my
>> needs do not include anything high-performance or high-bandwidth -
>> mostly
>> infrastructure services such as dns/dhcp/web for small companies.
>> >
>> > so what i'm looking for is something small like (or smaller than)
>> > these two
>> systems, and just as stable, while being cheaper. and i'm looking for
>> recommendations, not just suggestions - if you haven't tried it and
>> loved it,
>> don't bother mentioning it.
>> >
>> > i'm hoping the raspberrypi will eventually be supported on openbsd
>> > (if the
>> hardware proves to be stable, $35 sounds GREAT) but i don't have the
>> skills to
>> go there myself.
>> >
>>
>> Alixes are pretty cheap. Not Sheevaplug or RasberryPi cheap, but
>> cheap
>> for the capabilities they have. I mean, at the end of the day, your
>> clients are relying on these devices for potentially
>> business-critical
>> services. How much do they really want to skimp?
>>
>> Personally I've lately been moving upmarket with this kind of device.
>> You get better performance (e.g., faster CPUs, Intel GbE rather than
>> Via, etc.), a more solid build, and I've never had to solder my own
>> surface mount caps on
>> one to fix a clock oscillator issue as I did with my home Soekris
>> once
>> :)
>>
>> All that said, one day when I retire and want to stretch my brain to
>> keep from getting senile, I'll probably try to port OpenBSD to a
>> couple of embedded-ish devices I currently use. The hardware is
>> generally decent from the outside, but I can't help but believe
>> they'd
>> be better, faster, and more secure with OpenBSD than the iffy
>> Linux+vendor "enhancements" that they typically come with.
>>
>> Corey
>
> is it safe to assume your upmarket devices meet the first two criteria, but
are more expensive? i'm still interested in hearing your recommendation; most
of my servers are much larger and more expensive than the alix solutions -
having something in the middle could certainly be useful. thanks for your
input.

Yes, more expensive. I use mine in an industrial environment, so I was
looking for something fanless and (preferably) totally enclosed. To be
honest, I'm still investigating, but I bought a couple of Netgate
Hamakuas (which appear to be rebadged Lanner FW7520s) and, after some
futzing with them to get the BIOS serial console working, I like them.
5 Intel Ethernet (4 are Gb I think), Celeron CPU, SSD for about $600
US.

Logic Supply has a pretty good selection of this sort of hardware as well.

If you don't need the environmental exclusion case, I recall reading
some good reviews of reasonably-priced Supermicro Atom-based systems
on this list - low power but they seem to look and feel like real
servers (even have IPMI and such). Still probably more expensive than
Alix, though.

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