This article is really great, thanks a lot!
Also, I already support that "repair" culture, not only for ecology or
better savings, the need for GHz-booze is just marketing, my old P3 700MHz
openbsd laptop still does quite a lot.

It just comes to my mind what a guy I knew told me about the R&D dept of a
very famous home devices brand: "they design products which, within 5 years,
will suffer from a hardware failure which won't be economically savvy to
repair, compared to buying a new device: this is the only way to keep
selling in an overloaded market..."



On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Tomas Bodzar <tomas.bod...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Paolo Aglialoro <paol...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Actually I'm way more optimist about OEM motherboard manufacturers rather
> > than PC companies.
> > The weak spot will in fact be laptops and other portable equipment, as
> these
> > are all proprietary design.
>
> There's new article related to that
> http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=1863
>
> >
> > Considering that laptop sales have overdone standard "fixed" PCs ones
> since
> > years, the ecosystem, unless some heavyweight authority will strike hard,
> > could be severely affected....
> >
> > Plus: is this crap going to fit the TPM chip onboard? Or just something
> that
> > can be got around by flashing bios/firmware? And how many firmwares will
> > there be? It's not realistic to think that any single one of them can be
> > hacked... plus with the danger of bricking the box any time or making it
> > behave dizzy....
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Marc Smith <marc_sm...@gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, yes. You're right. Apparently only EU commission can help and
> >> let me tell you that: EU is really good with those kind of
> >> regulations. It usually cares for customer's privacy and fights
> >> monopoly of particular companies. Let's hope it would make next move.
> >>
> >> Anyway, there are [still] some custom PC sets that remains open and
> >> non-restrictive. Let's count on that so it will remain active on the
> >> market.
> >>
> >> W dniu 24.09.2011 18:57, Paolo Aglialoro pisze:
> >> > Unfortunately, just a tiny percentage of sold X86 boxes is no-OS,
> >> > and also dell has stopped selling linux PCs. The last "no-OS" one I
> >> > bought was an HP laptop (HP 360) with suse 11 onboard. Drops within
> >> > an ocean. Unless EU Commission helps, it'll be a hell of a
> >> > scenery....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Marc Smith <marc_sm...@gmx.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> This has been already explained in multiple articles, really. It
> >> >> looks like it's OEMs stuff. They decide whether they give the end
> >> >> user an option to disable secure boot or not. It's probobly the
> >> >> best to buy only "No OS" computers anyway. You can also support
> >> >> various open BIOS initiatives.
> >> >>
> >> >> Dnia sob, 24 wrz 2011, 15:36:21 Amit Kulkarni pisze:
> >> >>> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html
> >> >>>
> >> >>> in the future how will we have access to OpenBSD if Microsoft
> >> >>> get away with it? right now most of us buy Windows enabled PCs
> >> >>> and either dual boot or wipe it out...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> thanks

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