On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Paolo Aglialoro <paol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Actually I'm way more optimist about OEM motherboard manufacturers rather > than PC companies. > The weak spot will in fact be laptops and other portable equipment, as these > are all proprietary design.
There's new article related to that http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=1863 > > Considering that laptop sales have overdone standard "fixed" PCs ones since > years, the ecosystem, unless some heavyweight authority will strike hard, > could be severely affected.... > > Plus: is this crap going to fit the TPM chip onboard? Or just something that > can be got around by flashing bios/firmware? And how many firmwares will > there be? It's not realistic to think that any single one of them can be > hacked... plus with the danger of bricking the box any time or making it > behave dizzy.... > > > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Marc Smith <marc_sm...@gmx.com> wrote: > >> Well, yes. You're right. Apparently only EU commission can help and >> let me tell you that: EU is really good with those kind of >> regulations. It usually cares for customer's privacy and fights >> monopoly of particular companies. Let's hope it would make next move. >> >> Anyway, there are [still] some custom PC sets that remains open and >> non-restrictive. Let's count on that so it will remain active on the >> market. >> >> W dniu 24.09.2011 18:57, Paolo Aglialoro pisze: >> > Unfortunately, just a tiny percentage of sold X86 boxes is no-OS, >> > and also dell has stopped selling linux PCs. The last "no-OS" one I >> > bought was an HP laptop (HP 360) with suse 11 onboard. Drops within >> > an ocean. Unless EU Commission helps, it'll be a hell of a >> > scenery.... >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Marc Smith <marc_sm...@gmx.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> This has been already explained in multiple articles, really. It >> >> looks like it's OEMs stuff. They decide whether they give the end >> >> user an option to disable secure boot or not. It's probobly the >> >> best to buy only "No OS" computers anyway. You can also support >> >> various open BIOS initiatives. >> >> >> >> Dnia sob, 24 wrz 2011, 15:36:21 Amit Kulkarni pisze: >> >>> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html >> >>> >> >>> in the future how will we have access to OpenBSD if Microsoft >> >>> get away with it? right now most of us buy Windows enabled PCs >> >>> and either dual boot or wipe it out... >> >>> >> >>> thanks