From: "Michael W. Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 10:05:38AM -0400, Kurt Miller wrote:
From: "Michael W. Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 01:12:24PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>>The FreeBSD guys sold their soul to Sun in a "license agreement" of
>>some sort in order to use Sun's code as a base for their native
>>implementation. >
>Sorry, not quite.
>
>The FreeBSD-native Java implementation did not require changing any
>licenses in the base OS.  Mind you, those poor bastards who donated
>their work and code to get Java running natively on FreeBSD may have
>sold their souls (or, at least, got badly taken), but that's a
>separate issue.

I have spent considerable time getting Java working on OpenBSD. How I
choose to spend my time is my choice. I've nethier sold my soul or have
been badly taken. Piss off!

>The last time I tried it, the FreeBSD native Java ran fine on OpenBSD
>under emulation.  At least it's a step closer than the Linux version.
>And, if you feel like donating your limited free time to Sun, the
>FreeBSD version is a better starting point than the Linux version.

Stop spreading FUD. At least take a sec and look in /usr/ports/devel/jdk before posting this crap.

Kurt,

Really, no disparagement was meant of your efforts.  My apologies for
any offense.

I can't see spending my time working on Sun's code, but that's your
choice, and if it works for you more power to you.

Thanks for the apology. Your post struck a nerve and my frustration
with the amount of misinformation in this thread came out. Few people
really understand the Java - *BSD licensing issues. For what seems
like ideological licensing preferences, people like to make noise and
otherwise spout off.

I choose to work on Java on OpenBSD because it was challenging and
it represented the convergence of two of my interests. Do I like the licensing
situation? No, but that didn't stop me from having fun, learning a lot and
getting it work.

So let us all move on and let this thread die already. :-)

-Kurt

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