> You know, for every Kurt, there have to be several hundred people
> (OpenBSD users or otherwise) who say "if I wanted to deal with Sun every
> day, I'd run Solaris instead" and frankly, I don't blame them. Every
> attempt to use Java here has caused more problems than it has solved;
> it's simply a resource pig. I'm sure it runs great on the fully loaded
> sparc64 boxen that Sun salesweasels are pimping for
> $UNGODLY_AMOUNT_OF_CASH; sorry, but I don't have that kind of money.

Suns newest ultra 20 x64 workstation retails at under #1000.

Not as expensive as they once were.

Regards

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