You can't sell that bridge - I own it... :) 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Rod.. Whitworth
Sent: Monday, 20 June 2005 4:26 PM
To: Dave Feustel; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nick Holland
Cc: misc
Subject: Re: OT: Hardware keyloggers embedded in new keyboards?

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:07:13 -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:

>On Sunday 19 June 2005 08:51 pm, Nick Holland wrote:
>> Dave Feustel wrote:
>> > http://bs.somewhere.real.not   
>> 
>> This has nothing to do with OpenBSD.
>> It isn't new.
>> It isn't unique.
>> In effect, you just spammed the list, advertising someone's product.
>> 
>> If you are going to put totally off-topic stuff on the list, how 
>> 'bout making it interesting and new?
>
>I thought you had more insight. All of OpenBSD's security is at risk 
>with this technology.

I thought that <you> might have a brain.....

All of OpenBSD's security at risk? How, in your wildest chemically
induced dreams, could it be?

1 > Not everything that runs OBSD is a PC and even some of those that
are PCs are using serial consoles.

2> You have to "own" the PC to get to "talk" to the keyboard. How will
you do that do you suppose? If the PC has been hacked after the firewall
has been hacked it is probably running windows anyway and you can spy on
it in many ways without a keylogger. Sniffing the packets at the
firewall would do for a start.

3> How do you know which firewalls are hiding which keyloggers so that
it is worth your while to break in?
Oh! I know! They run little programs of their own that nobody notices
that send a message to mother, right?
And this program runs on every PC OS and so it can .........

and on, and on, and on.

If there is one thing worse than conspiracy myths it is the crowd of
people without a built-in crap-detector who help spread the stories.

Hey, I've got a nice big bridge for sale with great views of Sydney
Harbour. No, really! Good price too!

R/

>From the land "down under": Australia.
Do we look <umop apisdn> from up over?

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