I'm fairly sure this is a hoax. I have seen this referenced several
times over the past few weeks and I have seen no evidence to indicate
and truth to the matter.

Apart from the obvious legal implications outside of the US how long do
you think Dell, HP or any other manufacturer would have customers for if
this were true?

See: http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/dellbug.asp

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dave Feustel
Sent: Monday, 20 June 2005 3:06 PM
To: Greg Thomas
Cc: OpenBSD-Misc
Subject: Re: OT: Hardware keyloggers embedded in new keyboards?

On Sunday 19 June 2005 07:24 pm, Greg Thomas wrote:
> On 6/19/05, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.amecisco.com/faq_hardwarekeylogger.htm#Q1
> > 
> > 
> 
> Why just new ones?  Do you think this device is new or something?  
> 
> Greg

The device is obviously not new.  What *is* new is that it is being
installed as oem equipment inside of keyboards for HP and Dell systems
and also inside of  'used keyboards which can be unobtrusively switched
in for older keyboards.
Then the companies doing the switching can secretly monitor all the
keystrokes of the user, picking up everything the user types.  There is
no way to detect the keylogger short of opening up the keyboard. Shortly
I predict the keylogging functiion will be incorporated into the
keyboard cpu so that even opening up the keyboard will not permit the
presence of the logger to be detected. 

What's new is that this functionality now comes builtin to new systems,
possibly at the behest of Homeland Security, which would in that case
know the password needed to retrieve the logged keystrokes. So far I see
no defense against this spying technique of password capture.

Dave

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