On 02/10/14 06:41, Ilia Mirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Emil Velikov <emil.l.veli...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On 29/09/14 17:24, Matt Turner wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Emil Velikov <emil.l.veli...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> So all in all we have the following:
>>>>
>>>> Some distributions/people choose odd location of the modules. Which
>>>> can lead to the system (vdpau/omx) looking at the wrong place for the
>>>> backends, i.e. not working. One can consider that there is no way to
>>>> override the module location at runtime.
>>>
>>> Do we have more specifics? If they're doing something stupid and it
>>> breaks, they typically get to keep the pieces.
>>>
>>> Debian/Ubuntu install to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/vdpau/? Isn't
>>> ${libdir} just /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ in that case?
>>>
>> Hmm I was under the impression that ${libdir} and
>> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ are different things. Can I consider you as a
>> volunteer for the following, even if the chances of it happening are zero ?
>>
>> On 29/09/14 17:16, Emil Velikov wrote:
>> [...]
>>> How many volunteers do we have that will guide Debian/Ubuntu/other to
>>> do the correct thing ? If we have at least one, I will be OK with
>>> reverting the patch.
>
> Guide who? The maintainers? Sure, I'll happily help them out.
>
Pretty much everyone that reports a bug/send an email to the ML/posts a
big and flashy "review" along the lines of "vdpau/omx/va is
useless/broken" like YKW.
The numbers/reports will be low (if any), but the encounters are likely
to be quite "interesting".
-Emil
> There are basically a few categories of users:
>
> (a) People whose job it is to create distro package definitions. These
> people usually know what they're doing, so pretty much whatever we do,
> they'll be able to work something out. If they're used to setting
> weirdo paths, they'll keep setting them here. No problem.
> (b) People who do a LFS-style setup and want to install on their
> system. They'll be generally fine with the defaults (/usr, etc), and
> it will work for them here.
> (c) People who don't want to mess up their system install but still
> want to futz with other mesa versions (this includes me). Prefix will
> now do the right thing again.
> (d) People who use something akin to stow. Again, they want things all
> inside the prefix.
>
> And then there are the masses of people who don't really know what
> they're doing, but they found some blog which had some stuff written
> in it. It didn't quite work, but when randomly combined with things in
> another blog they found from 6 years ago, something worked a little
> bit. There's just not a whole lot we'll ever be able to do to deter
> such users from making terrible mistakes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -ilia
>
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