On 14 September 2016 at 13:36, Adam Jackson <a...@redhat.com> wrote: > On Wed, 2016-09-14 at 11:15 +0100, Emil Velikov wrote: > >> Nice one... I wonder if your view will be the same if you were never >> involved in distribution packaging? Guess we'll never know :-\ >> In case you've forgotten things have been like that for a long time - >> long before I jumped in. > > I wasn't accusing you of anything. I said _I_ am not the one making the > decision, that's all. > It's surprising that you haven't heard about this, considering it's been in use for more than three years. Guess you simply forgot ?
> Obviously I can't make definite assertions about counterfactuals about > my work history, but > I think considering all "new features" equally > destabilizing is wrong. Fully agree. The point is that defining which new things are "more destabilizing" than others is a never ending topic. There are a few major influences: - humans always have a subjective view on things, always - due to ^^ the feasibility and impact of backporting is related to the personal interest in the feature Thus, such topics are better left to distributions to lobby, discuss, vote and/or other, as they seem fit. > Why have an extension model if you're not going > to use it to make assertions about the orthogonality of feature sets? > Why refuse to reason about the code, unless you don't have any > confidence that it's something that can be reasoned about? > > Yes, we do backport features, it works pretty well. If one does so > enough times, a sense develops of how "big" of a feature it's possible > to backport reasonably. I have my own opinion about this one, and I was > asking what the rule was for mesa stable. Since the rule seems to be > "no", fine, not for stable. > With the above said: Yes, we are aware of (at least some) the backports that you do. Even though I don't use such packages, I think it's quite reasonable thing to do. Yes, your view about the severity/feasibility of such backports is (in all likelihood) going to be spot on, yet there is the subjective element. Hope the above provides some clarity on the topic. Thanks Emil _______________________________________________ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev