Thanks Ed,

I'll paste a few traceroutes on the end.  Do you think it could be a
timing/packet dying problem?  I haven't traced lots of them, but the close
ones (at my school) seem to work.  I also do not have a traceroute on my
win95 machine, so these are from my gateway Linux box.

>From the w95:
Pinging linux.org timed out 2/10 packets with times 252-538 ms
        linuxhq.com             0/10            250-279
        dijon.nais.com          0/10            217-345
        watt.seas.virginia.edu  0/10            123-138

Dave.

On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Ed Lange wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:50:24 -0400 (EDT), "David R. Forrest"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >I still have problems with many sites, but not all.
> >http://www.linuxhq.com but not http://www.linuxhq.com/no_file
> >http://dijon.nais.com/~nevo/masq/ but not
> >http://dijon.nais.com/~nevo/masq/no_file
> >
> >I can read http://www.indyramp.com/
> >http://www.indyramp.com/masq/ and http://ipmasq.home.ml.org/ but not 
> >http://www.linux.org
> >
> >I've tried with netscape and 'telnet www.xxx.yyy 80', 'GET' and get the
> >same results.  The thing that distubes me the most is that it works for
> >some sites but not others.
> 
> Try a traceroute to these sites and compare the results.  It could be that your
> routing setup or your private addressing scheme is causing problems.  Make sure
> that the traceroute is going through your default gateway and through the
> gateway at your ISP.  If it isn't, you have some networking issues to resolve.
> 

 .................................................................
 Dave Forrest                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (804)-979-8634               http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~drf5n

Traceroutes of machines where I can http from inside:
******************************
watt.seas.virginia.edu
****
 1  access8.cstone.net (205.197.102.56)  122.39 ms  126.338 ms  119.808 ms
 2  router1.cstone.net (205.197.102.2)  129.681 ms  127.524 ms  129.761 ms
 3  virginia-cisco.ver.NET (137.54.26.1)  129.734 ms  127.281 ms  129.756
ms
 4  virginia-ver-gw.ver.NET (137.54.201.99)  119.764 ms  126.927 ms
129.77 ms
 5  carruthers1-router.acc.Virginia.EDU (128.143.227.34)  119.866 ms
117.267 ms  129.713 ms
 6  watt.seas.virginia.edu (128.143.22.138)  129.921 ms  138.852 ms
129.744 ms
****************
home.indyramp.com
****
 1  access8.cstone.net (205.197.102.56)  140.086 ms  136.544 ms  129.827
ms
 2  core.cstone.net (205.197.102.1)  179.64 ms  217.376 ms  239.807 ms
 3  206.181.41.13 (206.181.41.13)  389.733 ms  127.941 ms  139.814 ms
 4  dca1-core3-h5-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.50.97)  159.69 ms  147.459 ms
129.875 ms
 5  dca1-core2-fa6-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.16.2)  139.727 ms  137.554
ms  129.797 ms
 6  iad1-core2-h4-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.50.181)  139.777 ms
137.418 ms  129.852 ms
 7  iad1-core3-fe1-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.129.5)  139.799 ms  147.447
ms  139.799 ms
 8  digexgw-me.above.net (165.117.51.94)  142.378 ms  144.752 ms  129.783
ms
 9  mae-west-oc3-2.sjc.above.net (207.126.96.117)  229.806 ms  207.388 ms
209.721 ms
10  main2-mae-west-oc3.sjc.above.net (207.126.96.105)  219.865 ms  207.38
ms  199.866 ms
11  gw-prado.above.net (207.126.104.15)  219.775 ms  209.207 ms  209.757
ms
12  coo.prado.net (209.66.87.2)  229.919 ms  219.179 ms  219.799 ms
13  foo.prado.net (209.66.87.1)  229.809 ms  219.187 ms  229.737 ms
14  alyssa.indyramp.com (209.66.83.73)  459.841 ms  348.945 ms  359.794 ms

*********************
Places where I cant get http://host.domain/ but can get
http://host.domain/bad_file_name_message

*********************
http://www.linux.org
********************
1  access8.cstone.net (205.197.102.56)  137.61 ms  116.289 ms  119.78 ms
 2  core.cstone.net (205.197.102.1)  179.775 ms  127.443 ms  119.837 ms
 3  206.181.41.13 (206.181.41.13)  129.786 ms  137.828 ms  129.768 ms
 4  dca1-core3-h5-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.50.97)  189.926 ms  127.409
ms  129.788 ms
 5  dca1-core2-fa6-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.16.2)  129.889 ms  137.309
ms  129.867 ms
 6  iad1-core2-h4-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.50.181)  139.795 ms
137.465 ms  129.842 ms
 7  mae-east.cais.com (192.41.177.85)  149.787 ms  136.607 ms  139.838 ms
 8  hssi12-0.mcl1.cais.net (209.8.159.26)  139.784 ms  137.224 ms  129.871
ms
 9  us.net.cais.net (206.161.140.25)  149.976 ms  137.137 ms  149.793 ms
10  cs1250-05.laurel.us.net (198.240.72.45)  139.973 ms  157.099 ms
139.874 ms
11  t1-usnet.invlogic.com (209.99.142.2)  229.869 ms  467.299 ms  529.766
ms
12  www.linux.org (198.182.196.51)  762.923 ms  503.786 ms  389.818 ms

********** dijon.nais.com
 1  access8.cstone.net (205.197.102.56)  128.345 ms  126.88 ms  119.78 ms
 2  core.cstone.net (205.197.102.1)  129.707 ms  127.382 ms  119.852 ms
 3  206.181.41.13 (206.181.41.13)  129.806 ms  129.033 ms  129.721 ms
 4  ric2-core2-fa6-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.53.2)  129.863 ms  127.432
ms  139.79 ms
 5  clt1-core1-h8-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.50.102)  139.745 ms  137.475
ms  139.719 ms
 6  clt1-core2-fa6-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.53.14)  149.812 ms
137.452 ms  139.817 ms
 7  atl2-core2-pt1-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.50.37)  149.759 ms
157.402 ms  149.811 ms
 8  atl2-core1-fa8-1-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.52.109)  149.836 ms
147.431 ms  149.814 ms
 9  atl1-core1-h9-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.53.54)  149.82 ms  147.431 ms
149.744 ms
10  500.Hssi11-1-0.GW1.ATL1.ALTER.NET (137.39.140.21)  149.858 ms  147.336
ms  149.793 ms
11  103.ATM11-0-0.XR2.ATL1.ALTER.NET (146.188.232.38)  149.844 ms  157.426
ms  149.546 ms
12  100.ATM3-0-0.TR2.ATL1.ALTER.NET (146.188.232.102)  149.891 ms  147.191
ms  169.738 ms
13  109.ATM6-0.TR2.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.136.62)  349.788 ms  347.366 ms
289.742 ms
14  298.ATM6-0.XR2.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.178.201)  259.892 ms  267.285
ms  249.821 ms
15  194.ATM12-0-0.GW3.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.177.141)  259.824 ms
267.323 ms  229.77 ms
16  router1.nais.com (204.253.76.1)  279.742 ms  277.487 ms  279.712 ms
17  dijon.nais.com (205.229.212.4)  309.933 ms  277.452 ms  259.79 ms

**********************
www.linuxhq.com
***************
 1  access8.cstone.net (205.197.102.56)  131.435 ms  126.73 ms  129.748 ms
 2  core.cstone.net (205.197.102.1)  119.851 ms  127.338 ms  119.822 ms
 3  206.181.41.13 (206.181.41.13)  129.77 ms  127.805 ms  121.566 ms
 4  ric2-core2-fa6-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.53.2)  158.031 ms  127.423
ms  129.778 ms
 5  clt1-core1-h8-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.50.102)  139.796 ms  137.372
ms  139.776 ms
 6  clt1-core2-fa6-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.53.14)  129.827 ms
137.353 ms  139.732 ms
 7  atl2-core2-pt1-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.50.37)  139.906 ms  137.36
ms  149.693 ms
 8  atl2-core1-fa8-1-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.52.109)  149.855 ms
157.392 ms  139.829 ms
 9  atl1-core1-h9-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.53.54)  149.852 ms  137.231
ms  139.773 ms
10  500.Hssi11-1-0.GW1.ATL1.ALTER.NET (137.39.140.21)  149.83 ms  147.316
ms  149.693 ms
11  103.ATM10-0-0.XR1.ATL1.ALTER.NET (146.188.232.34)  149.894 ms  157.234
ms  149.905 ms
12  100.ATM3-0-0.TR1.ATL1.ALTER.NET (146.188.232.86)  149.738 ms  147.204
ms  149.772 ms
13  109.ATM4-0-0.TR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.136.74)  279.84 ms  267.188
ms  249.716 ms
14  100.ATM5-0-0.XR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.200.101)  249.99 ms  237.203
ms  279.697 ms
15  195.ATM11-0-0.BR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.200.65)  249.85 ms  237.339
ms  249.768 ms
16  uunetca-sea1gw1.ALTER.NET (137.39.136.54)  490.813 ms  265.012 ms
309.744 ms
17  frvan01-h0-0-0.van.sfl.net (205.150.222.34)  329.792 ms  256.987 ms
239.769 ms
18  frkel01-a6-0-2.kel.sfl.net (204.209.214.66)  249.826 ms  257.319 ms
249.766 ms
19  frvip01-e0.kel.sfl.net (139.142.80.6)  259.88 ms  267.372 ms  359.729
ms
20  204.209.212.113 (204.209.212.113)  349.831 ms  267.742 ms  249.826 ms


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