Dear friends, The first thing, I think, what we need is an open source(O-S) public ethics awareness. Not only for our users but for all open-source users.
Free and open is not effortless. If all O-S users start to have the perception that even the smallest monthly amount helps them to stay free. That they are not powerless towards big-corp. if they together put their energy in the goal of remaining free. Only that way they will remain to be free. Personally I have chosen to live an as environmental friendly live as possible. My choice is to have a low as possible income because that is the most environmental friendly. That is the reason for me to avoid 'big-corp'. (I've been there). Still I pay a small fee for all "free" software I use, because I do understand software is not made from thin air. And I want to stay free. For example: If all Mozilla-Firefox users paid a few dollars a month to the Mozilla foundation, Mozilla would not be dependent from Google. So I think we first need a Free Software Foundation wide ethical open-source users conduct. 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Op wo 28 apr. 2021 om 16:33 schreef Telesto <[email protected]>: > Op 28-4-2021 om 11:50 schreef Mike Saunders: > >> To be transparent of these info-bars, I would like it to appear > >> somewhere on the official LibreOffice site where the frequency is shown > >> and perhaps also the rationale for the frequency and a good explanation > >> of what is meant as "Get Involved" and "Donate ..." (or linked to their > >> appropriate pages). Make it clear as to where the money is being > >> invested and to the German non-profit/charitable laws governing the use > >> of the money ... do the German non-profit/charitable laws/rules force > >> the project to spend all of the donation income within that fiscal year? > > The https://www.libreoffice.org/donate/ page that we link to has an > > infographic on the right showing what the money is being used for, and > > some text underneath about the non-profit status. There's also a link to > > "financials and budget", although it's further down the right-hand > > column. We're working on a website redesign now, so maybe we can make > > those more prominent on the donate page... > Not to nag, but well I still struggle with the whole donation topic. > As I personally perceive it as kind of misleading (easy to misconceive). > In the sense that especially bugfixing (but maybe also features), > being outside of the scope of TDF . Obviously infra, meetings, > documentation and such is also important. > > However people do see a relation between donation and bugfixing. Or to > phrase it differently. > Some say, I have donated, why is bug XYZ not gone. This obviously not > how it works, > but implies a relation between donation to bugfixing. And that's what I > would expect to. But that's exactly how it not works. > No money is flowing to development directly. And actually can't flow, > because of the non-profit status and rules attached. > Donations maybe also thank you to developers who fixed something, while > TDF being kind of unrelated. > > TDF needs funding to obviously. All the other stuff is also important. > However the whole mystery around TDF and spending makes kind of public > secret. > You have to make study to actually know about the 'broken transfer > system' regarding bugfixing > You're actually doing more 'good' by buying LibreOffice from eco-system > partners, IMHO. > > And yes, this is not marketing topic, but well marketing circling around > the hairy area by putting info-banners inside LibreOffice. > Same for the banners on libreoffice.org download page. > > And well I know this "being topic" for quite a while. Meeks written > enough about it. And where still is some status quo land. Still hoping > for a change; a fix. > Current situation is one 'Big ball of mud' to me. > > Note: simply mentioning it; not expecting marketing to sort this out > (but it does play in the background) > > Cheers, > Telesto > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- ============================================= This information is intended for consignee only. For address, registrations, privacy and further legal information please refer to our websites. © Clocked S.O. B.V. 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