Le 2021-04-27 à 11 h 52, Justin Luth a écrit : > You are already getting my code contributions completely free, so IMHO > you should be satisfied with people making general donations to TDF > instead of ever nagging them via infobars. So I still think this is a > bad idea. > > > Justin > > > On 4/27/21 5:28 PM, Mike Saunders wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> In recent versions of LibreOffice, we have an infobar that's >> periodically displayed at the top of the screen, including some text and >> a link. Currently the configuration is: >> >> * 90 days after installation: show a "Get involved" button >> >> * 180 days after installation: show a "Donate to support our community" >> button >> >> We know that the donate infobar results in a lot of donations; people >> using LibreOffice for six months are (hopefully!) still satisfied. >> >> So the question is: should we change how often these are shown? We don't >> want to "nag" anybody, but at the same time, one bar every three months >> isn't much, I think, given that users get a completely free office >> suite. IMO we could show the "get involved" bar after two months, and >> the "donate" after four -- but what do others think? >> >
There are many ways to contribute. As I am not a coder, I try to contribute as best as I can to the project. However, others may not have the time to contribute to the project with marketing, QA verifying bugs and triage, docs etc. So, people who join in to help the project by donating some funds makes of them part of the project. Those who would rather help out with donating funds are aware that funds generally go to infrastructure, meetup/conference costs, hardware purchases, marketing kits for our native language groups in various countries, etc ... Donors are a category of contributors to the project that should not be ignored. I believe that LibreOffice users are quite aware that they are donating to the project and not for the product ... they all know that the product comes with no financial requirements; if they believe they are donating to the product, then usually one of our contributors on the help list/forums will set them straight. IMO, best we consider all categories of donations to the project, whether it be code, design, QA, Docs, Marketing, Advocacy, financial supporters to the project (this is our donor-base). If one is assuming that the code alone has made the project what it is, then, it would be a sad statement on the TDF/LibreOffice project and would do nothing more than be-little all of the other contributors donation to time, help and financial support to make LibreOffice so great a project. So, yes, I am for this. As far as frequency, I favour every the three month info-bar. I think every second month a little too quick. I would also favour more like: * after 3 months -- info-bar on "Get Involved" * after 6 months -- info-bar on "Donate to support ..." * then skip to a 9-month schedule after that last 6-month info-bar. Asking for either "Get Involved" and "Donate" -- by then a new version of LibreOffice would be in the wings and users would be hyped about the next LibreOffice iteration. To be transparent of these info-bars, I would like it to appear somewhere on the official LibreOffice site where the frequency is shown and perhaps also the rationale for the frequency and a good explanation of what is meant as "Get Involved" and "Donate ..." (or linked to their appropriate pages). Make it clear as to where the money is being invested and to the German non-profit/charitable laws governing the use of the money ... do the German non-profit/charitable laws/rules force the project to spend all of the donation income within that fiscal year? And also add to the page financials that show where past donations were spent and perhaps any projections as to the next fiscal year's plans for donation-income spending. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré [email protected] https://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org LibreOffice Office Suite - 200 million users and growing! Over 1,000 project developers with impeccable help from its user base. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
