> > On 28 Jan 2024, at 20:23, Thomas Walter via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 28.01.24 20:02, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
> >> There are "edge cases" when the mail couldn't be reliably classified as
> >> spam
> >> or non-spam. Even with best tuned spam filtering systems false positives
> >> will happen.
> >
> > So why not just deliver these to the Inbox then - and add a tag/label
> > instead if you have to?
>
> A very experienced spam filter person, who worked at a not-for-profit spam
> filtering company and two of the major mailbox providers once told me that
> the biggest challenge with their job was that there were messages that some
> recipients were SURE were spam and messages that some recipients absolutely
> wanted. Those were the hardest messages to decide what to do with. They
> couldn´t block them because some recipients would be mad and they couldn´t
> deliver them because other recipients would be mad.
It's a catch-22 that becomes a more common challenge as the number
of users increases. Ultimately, the spam problem has many human
factors to it, so a purely-technical solution will be imperfect.
> > In 95% of the cases, I can just identify the bad emails by subject. A quick
> > press on DEL and it's gone.
> >
> > I don't see any advantage of a Spam folder if I have to regularly check it
> > anyway. In fact it can even be more difficult to identify a false positive
> > between the Junk that collected in there.
>
> Some mail clients allow you to turn off the spam folder option and get every
> mail, spam or not, in your inbox. That may be a solution for you. I know
> mail.app will also tag it in a different color, so you can visually see what
> mail.app thinks is spam in you rinbox.
SpamAssassin tagging can also continue as-is because it's just in an
SMTP header. Ditto for other solutions that add SMTP headers.
> > Plus there are still customers that use POP3 for different reasons
> > (connectors that collect mails for internal Exchange systems for example).
> > Those never get to see the content of a spam folder.
>
> Google heavily discourages POP, to the extent it throws up security warnings
> if you try and enable it. They´re pretty clear they don´t want their
> customers using it, so why would they go out of their way to suppor tht usage?
[sNip]
Interestingly, Google's GMail allows access to external eMail
accounts via POP3. There's no IMAP4 support there. It's as if they
want only the rest of the world to keep supporting POP3.
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