Just saw this thread; I published this earlier today and we're likely going to discuss it at M3AAWG: https://abusix.com/feedback-loops/
TLDR; Abusix is willing to take this on and provide it as a free service from any mailbox provider that wishes to participate, but we'll do it based on the Independent RFC Draft using CFBL-Address, so we don't just end up swapping out Validity for us, we help adopt a standard that any mailbox provider can use going forward if they wish. Putting us in the middle just means that we take on the burden of processing, wrapping and delivering the reports and approving the CFBL-Addresses that can receive them and producing some high-level statistics that might be interesting at the same time. Kind regards, Steve. On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 12:29, Support 3Hound via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > Dear list, > I would like to understand what the community think about the new Validity > universal feedback loop service that is switching to a paid service > starting 21 September 2023. > > As Validity worked in the the last years to achieve the management of the > FBL service from all the "main" country-level and international mailbox > providers (as the "universal" word suggest), I think that this new policy > is unfair and a very bad news for the mail operators community. > > During years the FBL became a kind of "safe feature" for users that prefer > to click "junk" or "spam" and be sure they will not receive anymore. > > The "one click unsubscribe/ List-unsubscribe header" should be the right > way to do that... true! But this is not the focus, everyone know that FBL > are -de facto- used like that from users and that they are honored from > correct sender. > > FBL generates also a good data flow for the mailbox provider that may > filter the "next e-mail" from a sender that don't honor the FBL (or can't > act realtime the unsubcribe) generating a better service for the end user > and a way to identify good player and bad ones. > > Switching to a paid service bring these metrics to fails; rich spammer may > easily honor them getting a better reputation than a little correct player. > > It also means that it's needed to buy a paid service from a private > company to follows best practices, something that seems to be unfair. > > But... as any collaborating service it's based on other > peers/nodes/players so my question is: how mail players will act in this > scenario? > > For example, if every mailbox is going to reactivate his own service to > get back the control of their FBL, it will not have just a short term > impact... > > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop > -- Steve Freegard | Senior Product Owner T. +44 7740 364348 abusix.com <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc7cedc63ed1d1d78e45272?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nLiDvwE1FDvAnv56cZf8gHOlGcXNTPUHN-wE0IIEJbWkBqUZ5n-wh878kG0mKc-TDzZTf64_AIC7pyl-xmo2L5eYJtYu1PnTYrDUUBmQW-VxiqyfDuPS_3WZnIEFz1xocGdBhnxAEyhHhg3_G29KPX5gu0-0JxXoL3Lw4zV1rZI4zA5EgDWnGc90iUX1HRTDIs=> Book a meeting <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc7cedc63ed1d1d78e45272?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nLiDvwE1FDvAnv56cZf8gHOlGcXNTPUHN-wE0IIEJbWkBqUZ5n-wh878kG0mKc-TDzdypi6WPqhVkFKkuLiMX0pY_5fawxs7P25-lwfZUyr7w==> [image: My Logo] <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc7cedc63ed1d1d78e45272?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nLiDvwE1FDvAnv56cZf8gHOlGcXNTPUHN-wE0IIEJbWkBqUZ5n-wh878kG0mKc-TDyIo6EwBskR6pg3M12nuwEx_9G03qmurLHy8H_IjsK3cg==> <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc7cedc63ed1d1d78e45272?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nLiDvwE1FDvAnv56cZf8gHOlGcXNTPUHN-wE0IIEJbWkBqUZ5n-wh878kG0mKc-TDweOZAf2SFcCyyLHlLyd4j2GB_p_YWWJ_3WJxEqTQND2A==> <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc7cedc63ed1d1d78e45272?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nLiDvwE1FDvAnv56cZf8gHOlGcXNTPUHN-wE0IIEJbWkBqUZ5n-wh878kG0mKc-TDz5UNyOTEm_EvRFXdshn5-xBpkDGWEZYln2qrkxaFuQc-FVdHa5XQ8gkUA8UK9te-A=> <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc7cedc63ed1d1d78e45272?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nLiDvwE1FDvAnv56cZf8gHOlGcXNTPUHN-wE0IIEJbWkBqUZ5n-wh878kG0mKc-TDyEop3qI2i2HFrm2U65Sd5oxcB4tERwhAI5MzR-NKIKtw==> CONFIDENTIALITY This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. You’ll find further information about privacy here <https://cloud.letsignit.com/collect/bc/5fc7cedc63ed1d1d78e45272?p=3QW9LKZRNsNLctpv2M4xw66qtjrDbFHkRfe_Jo_T8nLiDvwE1FDvAnv56cZf8gHOlGcXNTPUHN-wE0IIEJbWkBqUZ5n-wh878kG0mKc-TDwp6TTQAR8uw54LR3mph76uODAm2MU0ep-sVltZqsar_A==> .
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