> On 25.03.2023 at 22:26 Heiko Schlittermann via mailop wrote:
>
> hg user via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> (Sa 25 Mär 2023 18:39:06 CET):
>> A. extortion messages like "I recorded you doing bad things, pay me". Tons
>> deleted, but some in the inboxes.
>>
>> B. phishing, some generic, some specific for our web mail interface. The
>> latter, sometimes, carry our logo in the fake page...
>
> A good share of such messages use the reciepint's domain as sender.
> Proper protection here can help.
>
> Another share uses generally trusted domains. If you're lucky, these
> trusted domains publish DMARC records.

Hmm, I don’t see many of those anymore. They are easy to block anyway.

> Ok, and the last share uses non-DMARC domains OR From: heaaders like
>
> From: "your-b...@example.com" <hac...@example.net>
>
> with stupid mailclients only showing the display part of the address.

In the last couple of years, most phishing emails I came across don’t even try 
anymore to forge the From-header address, likely due to the increased adoption 
of DMARC. They are sent from compromised servers or mailboxes and use whatever 
sender address those systems have, eg „Your boss“ 
<randomdomain@younever.heardof> or „My Bank <serv...@mybank.tld>“ 
<some....@hotmail.com>.

Unfortunately as you mentioned some popular email clients don’t show the email 
addresses or try to make smart guesses to „map“ the sender address of the 
phishing email to the real account.


> Yes. We have the bsi.de (governmental agency for security and data
> protection).
>
>        $ dig _dmarc.bsi.de txt
>        ; <<>> DiG 9.16.37-Debian <<>> txt _dmarc.bsi.de
>        ;; global options: +cmd
>        ;; Got answer:
>        ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 16687
>                                               ********
>
> They have SPF, but no DKIM (NXDOMAIN for the _domainkey.bsi.de)
>
> Or did I miss something?

The DKIM keys would be at <selector>._domainkey.bsi.de

—
BR Oliver
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