On 1/17/22 4:47 PM, Scott Mutter via mailop wrote:
Additionally, are all of these big name email service providers going to automatically send feedback to these abuse contacts for every single message that their users flag as spam or that their systems flags as spam?
I suspect that the percentage of reported / detected spam will be sent to -- what I'm describing as -- the chosen abuse contact. I suspect that the percentage will drop as the rate of reports / detentions increases.
That's where a distinction needs to be made.
I would like to have a 100% / 1:1 report if possible. But I'm not going to hold my breath for that.
I feel like the abuse contact that's being suggested in RDAP, RP, rWhois, etc - are all intended to be manually sent by a human, i.e. someone from one of these big name email service providers (Microsoft/Yahoo/Gmail).
Why can't automated and manual reports go to the same address? Isn't that what recipient side filtering is for? E.g. separating RFC standard DSNs / MDNs from human generated messages, each handled by different teams.
What's more is I feel that having different addresses for the same thing, dependent on automatic vs manual is going to only further fracture the ecosystem that we're discussing.
That's where I feel feedback loops are more automated and generally better equipped to notify the difference makers that can really take action on the spam/abuse.
My problem with FBLs is that I have to know to sign up for FBLs. Conversely, mailbox operators can probably more easily send push notifications to published addresses, whatever the industry accepted method is.
Or are they just deciding at some point that they've received too much spam from my server, that they're just going to block the IP address and never tell anyone that could potentially make a difference?
This is why I suspect that the reporting rate will drop as the detection rate goes up; thus inversely related.
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