Its 2021. You either love privacy or you hate privacy. Pick a side. Who has
time for nuance.

On Fri, Sep 24, 2021, 1:11 PM Jarland Donnell via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
wrote:

> > What will be better with my services, when i publish my name? Do you
> > know me? What will prevent me to publish fictive name or use someone
> > else to register domain for me? You do not need know me, you only need
> > to know, if my servers abuse you or not. Nothing more, nothing less,
> > exactly as on the street. Or do you care about identity of all people
> > on the street, which want something from you? I doubt...
>
> It's accountability. If you published fake info you could lose the
> domain. If you abuse me and I know who you are, I know who to file a
> police report / lawsuit against. There are many legitimate use cases for
> anonymity, but plenty more cases where it's used to protect and
> safeguard abusive people from being held accountable in public.
>
> On 2021-09-24 19:55, Slavko via mailop wrote:
> > Ahoj,
> >
> > Dňa Fri, 24 Sep 2021 12:36:23 -0400 Bill Cole via mailop
> > <mailop@mailop.org> napísal:
> >
> >> On 2021-09-24 at 11:50:24 UTC-0400 (Fri, 24 Sep 2021 17:50:24 +0200)
> >> Slavko via mailop <li...@slavino.sk>
> >> is rumored to have said:
> >>
> >> > While i cannot comment mentioned OVH domain, i will ask, why anyone
> >> > have to know from WHOIS of my domain my name, or my address or
> >> > anything
> >> > about me as private person? Yes, if someone has archive of WHOIS
> >> > response, it was there and i was not happy from that. Are you having
> >> > label with these info at top of face when you are walking on the
> >> > street?
> >>
> >> Bad analogy.
> >
> > Good analogy, as street is as public as the Internet is. You do not
> > answer if are you publishing your identity on the street.
> >
> >> Owning an operational domain name makes you a public person. A domain
> >> name is a claim on a specific piece of the public commons of the DNS.
> >> In many places (including the US and at least some European
> >> countries) you can only own land if your 'title' to that land is
> >> registered with the government in an open public record. In the US,
> >> that title includes the record of past ownership and even sales
> >> prices. A domain name is intrinsically connected to public
> >> interaction.
> >
> > And that is what GDPR exactly prevents. That anyone want/require that
> > others have to publish, what they don't want, only because they want to
> > know it. The RFC defines ways how to contact domain's services
> > maintainers (postmaster, hostmaster, abuse, etc). What more you need to
> > know?
> >
> > What will be better with my services, when i publish my name? Do you
> > know me? What will prevent me to publish fictive name or use someone
> > else to register domain for me? You do not need know me, you only need
> > to know, if my servers abuse you or not. Nothing more, nothing less,
> > exactly as on the street. Or do you care about identity of all people
> > on the street, which want something from you? I doubt...
> >
> > When you look at RFC, you will found, that it say about server's
> > identity (HELO/EHLO) nothing more, nothing less. And even tells, that
> > no one have to reject emails based on that identity checks...
> >
> > I do not know how in USA, but in our country the government has tools
> > to know my identity, if there is legal reason (and court approve it).
> > How legal is your reason, beside that you want to know it?
> >
> > In our country's neighbor, here is one saying (i will no try to
> > translate it): "jména hloupých na všech sloupích", see
> >
> https://cs.wiktionary.org/wiki/jm%C3%A9na_hloup%C3%BDch_na_v%C5%A1ech_sloup%C3%ADch
> >
> > regards
> >
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