Its 2021. You either love privacy or you hate privacy. Pick a side. Who has time for nuance.
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021, 1:11 PM Jarland Donnell via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > > What will be better with my services, when i publish my name? Do you > > know me? What will prevent me to publish fictive name or use someone > > else to register domain for me? You do not need know me, you only need > > to know, if my servers abuse you or not. Nothing more, nothing less, > > exactly as on the street. Or do you care about identity of all people > > on the street, which want something from you? I doubt... > > It's accountability. If you published fake info you could lose the > domain. If you abuse me and I know who you are, I know who to file a > police report / lawsuit against. There are many legitimate use cases for > anonymity, but plenty more cases where it's used to protect and > safeguard abusive people from being held accountable in public. > > On 2021-09-24 19:55, Slavko via mailop wrote: > > Ahoj, > > > > Dňa Fri, 24 Sep 2021 12:36:23 -0400 Bill Cole via mailop > > <mailop@mailop.org> napísal: > > > >> On 2021-09-24 at 11:50:24 UTC-0400 (Fri, 24 Sep 2021 17:50:24 +0200) > >> Slavko via mailop <li...@slavino.sk> > >> is rumored to have said: > >> > >> > While i cannot comment mentioned OVH domain, i will ask, why anyone > >> > have to know from WHOIS of my domain my name, or my address or > >> > anything > >> > about me as private person? Yes, if someone has archive of WHOIS > >> > response, it was there and i was not happy from that. Are you having > >> > label with these info at top of face when you are walking on the > >> > street? > >> > >> Bad analogy. > > > > Good analogy, as street is as public as the Internet is. You do not > > answer if are you publishing your identity on the street. > > > >> Owning an operational domain name makes you a public person. A domain > >> name is a claim on a specific piece of the public commons of the DNS. > >> In many places (including the US and at least some European > >> countries) you can only own land if your 'title' to that land is > >> registered with the government in an open public record. In the US, > >> that title includes the record of past ownership and even sales > >> prices. A domain name is intrinsically connected to public > >> interaction. > > > > And that is what GDPR exactly prevents. That anyone want/require that > > others have to publish, what they don't want, only because they want to > > know it. The RFC defines ways how to contact domain's services > > maintainers (postmaster, hostmaster, abuse, etc). What more you need to > > know? > > > > What will be better with my services, when i publish my name? Do you > > know me? What will prevent me to publish fictive name or use someone > > else to register domain for me? You do not need know me, you only need > > to know, if my servers abuse you or not. Nothing more, nothing less, > > exactly as on the street. Or do you care about identity of all people > > on the street, which want something from you? I doubt... > > > > When you look at RFC, you will found, that it say about server's > > identity (HELO/EHLO) nothing more, nothing less. And even tells, that > > no one have to reject emails based on that identity checks... > > > > I do not know how in USA, but in our country the government has tools > > to know my identity, if there is legal reason (and court approve it). > > How legal is your reason, beside that you want to know it? > > > > In our country's neighbor, here is one saying (i will no try to > > translate it): "jména hloupých na všech sloupích", see > > > https://cs.wiktionary.org/wiki/jm%C3%A9na_hloup%C3%BDch_na_v%C5%A1ech_sloup%C3%ADch > > > > regards > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mailop mailing list > > mailop@mailop.org > > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop >
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