Speaking of SendGrid.. (Again)

BTW, our guys policy, on detection of 'phishing' the IP is posted to RBL's.. otherwise it is probably just scored a little higher..

But does anyone know these guys? Looks like they have bought or used a bad mailing list, or they have a sign process being abused heavily..

149.72.129.15       (S,M)        31   o1.sg.e.zulily.com
   149.72.129.150   (M)          42   o2.sg.e.zulily.com
   149.72.129.152   (M)          37   o3.sg.e.zulily.com
149.72.164.60       (M)          45   o4.sg.e.zulily.com
149.72.177.54       (M)          38   o5.sg.e.zulily.com
   149.72.177.55    (M)          42   o6.sg.e.zulily.com
149.72.202.44       (M)          37   o7.sg.e.zulily.com
149.72.208.230      (M)          40   o8.sg.e.zulily.com



On 2020-09-25 12:00 p.m., Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote:
On 9/25/20 11:50, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop wrote:

I've been very saddened.  Sendgrid was a reputable ESP that has fallen
from grace.  About 6-7 months ago, we started seeing pretty large
amounts of spam from them.

Exactly - this tracks with the timeline when a) they ceased being certified by us, b)  certain key people who *had* been involved with making sure that SendGrid did the right thing left, and then c) they were acquired by Twilio.  Acquisitions of reputable players in the email space generally lead to a decline in how white hat they are, because of course the acquirers are almost always only (or at least primarily) interested in a return on their $ investment (witness Habeas).

If, after months of abuse, receivers continue to take the attitude that the relatively small amount of wanted mail coming from Sendgrid is an obstacle to a complete block, we are simply acting as enablers and there is no incentive for them to get a handle on the problem.

IMHO, Sendgrid doesn't consider it to be a problem, they consider it to be a feature. As long as the spammers' and phishers' checks don't bounce they're happy to accommodate them. As long as the rest of the Internet continues to take their abuse, they will continue to dish it out.




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