This is wonderful. Thanks for the reply.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 6:55 PM Matt Palmer via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 06:06:25PM -0700, Luke wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 07:48:45AM -0700, Luke via mailop wrote:
> > > > I cant tell if this the thing about ESPs not removing bounces is a
> joke
> > > or
> > > > not. All of the major ESPs have logic for adding bad addresses to
> > > > suppression lists.
> > >
> > > [Citation needed]
> > >
> > > Your assertion does not match my data.
>
> [snip URLs]
>
> OK, I walked into that one.
>
> > To be honest, I'm not proud of myself for dignifying this nonsense with a
> > response. I think you should be ashamed of yourself for *pretending* you
> > don't know that ESPs suppress invalid email addresses.
>
> I'm not pretending anything.  I'm extrapolating from data.  You're... I
> don't even know.
>
> > You need to take a deep breath, chill, and reevaluate your approach to
> > defending the world from spam. This is not productive. In fact, it's
> almost
> > like you're gaslighting ESPs and the people who work for them.
>
> There's definitely some gaslighting going on here, but it's not what you
> seem to think it is.  When I see a never-ending stream of 554 responses in
> my logs to delivery attempts from Mailchimp IP addresses, to an e-mail
> address that was only provided to one organisation (and that organisation
> was not, I might add, Mailchimp), and then get told "Mailchimp suppresses
> invalid email addresses"... that's gaslighting right there.  You are
> denying the existence of the evidence sitting right in front of me.
>
> > Pretty remarkable stuff actually.  I hope you come around.
>
> Right back atcha, champ.
>
> - Matt
>
>
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