> On May 28, 2019, at 11:35 PM, Brett Schenker via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yup, believe that happens in California a lot. Signing up to vote too it 
> happens.

But that's the opposite of the example you gave of "elected officials to be 
contacted". One is mail being sent to someone who has published their email 
address with an invitation to contact them about relevant matters, the other 
case is someone misusing a list of email addresses without recipient consent.

/me wonders vaguely how much of the "Marketo spam" is coming from hostnames in 
"mkt1572.com"

Cheers,
  Steve

> 
> On Tue, May 28, 2019, 6:31 PM Michael Wise via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> 
> wrote:
>  
> 
> Or … someone using a known spamtrap address on a DMV email contact address, 
> and then that list being handed over to their apparent Member of Congress, 
> who proceeded to send constituent emails to it … on the grounds that of 
> course it was Opt-In (but not verified by a round-trip confirmation).
> 
>  
> 
> Based on a True Story.
> 
>  
> 
> Aloha,
> 
> Michael.
> 
> --
> 
> Michael J Wise
> Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis
> 
> "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."
> 
> Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?
> 
>  
> 
> From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> On Behalf Of Rob McEwen via mailop
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:05 PM
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Subject: Re: [mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received 
> non-spam from them?
> 
>  
> 
> On 5/28/2019 4:21 PM, Brett Schenker via mailop wrote:
> 
> Two real world examples would be elected officials to be contacted and some 
> corporations to be contacted. The former absolutely has reasons to be bulk 
> emailed, the latter possibly too. Both would be "published" email addresses. 
> For your average person, probably not but it's not a hard 100% rule as stated.
> 
> 
> This would apply to someone hand-typing an email sent via regular email 
> hosting (not an ESP) to their elected representative, which absolutely 
> wouldn't be spam. However, it would still be spam for a sender to subscribe 
> such an email address to mailing list sent via an ESP if there wasn't either 
> COI or some kind of direct and explicit business relationship between that 
> specific email address' past usage - and the sender.
> 
> (I worded it this way because - suppose an elected Representative became a 
> member of an organization and started receiving non-spam emails from them - 
> this permission is then still limited to the particular email used for that 
> signup or login (etc) - and therefore some kind of OTHER "role account" email 
> for that Representative's office, that is displayed online, shouldn't also be 
> added to such a distribution list by the sender.)
> 
> -- 
> Rob McEwen
> https://www.invaluement.com
>  
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