* Best practice, don't relay information about internal network structure to 
the public, so no internal trace header
* you can only "trust" headers that are signed and pass validation
* totally legit to generate mails on the outbound server

Kind regards,

/ Tobias Herkula
Manager Detection Anti Spam
Cyren (Berlin)

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From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> on behalf of Michael Peddemors 
<mich...@linuxmagic.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:42:56 PM
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: [mailop] *Grumble* When is Amazon AWS going to properly inject trace 
headers..

Just a rant..

Really hard to differentiate the good/bad/ugly ..

I am pretty sure the message is not generated on the outbound relay..
I don't really care HOW the record it, but as long as they record it..


Traffic leaving AWS..
(a14-188.smtp-out.amazonses.com)

Not a single received/trace header to be seen..

DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple;
         s=lqlkfglxmkqqaie63ahwxqbtpuibzecv; d=instructure.com;
         t=1537990176;

h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding;
         bh=XYPsipG8tQ8ES1Ao8uS1HsWBUYvG8wDJFWyNsnVKghA=;
         b=RDb5aDuHy6D68gQItHw6vPezbfSou69QkfE15pTdTf8zRlYUyQOWlaf/sc1CDcCq
         EWRyC95CrcF7UJhJk1EkAwo7DFKjHidQFmEof7C3OT9LjSlP8ZSGGjcndlF/c0TtxbE
         4ql1nPaaw9bRVVKu7FzcVv5wLjZPL5a/A1WD7n74=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple;
         s=ug7nbtf4gccmlpwj322ax3p6ow6yfsug; d=amazonses.com; t=1537990176;

h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Feedback-ID;
         bh=XYPsipG8tQ8ES1Ao8uS1HsWBUYvG8wDJFWyNsnVKghA=;
         b=fPRUbKlHPLqj82LVsaAmjq1tpbGD2IPIUosKVyqTjLOXG+WaPp0gg1gymtlVDAEY
         5we+vhzW3s+zAyLsvTh1bJB3iuCBH9DYOPOyLaoxU8ZEiRceFGSOPgYJDcHiMQy+glf
         J5IkKw/ms/9hx2LFA5JR5dHqxsv+829hjwEPS5is=
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:29:35 +0000


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