On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 03:01:41PM +0100, Philip Paeps wrote:
> It would be nice if the Google Groups would "confirm opt-in" like other
> mailing lists.

It's been a best practice since before Google (and many of its employees)
existed, so: yes.  Having run all kinds of mailing lists of all sizes
for all kinds of populations over several decades, I know that there is
absolutely no problem of any kind with it.  Yes, some people struggle
with the concept, but nearly all of them are educable -- and that's
part of the responsibility of running a mailing list.  (And the few
that aren't?   Experience, long bitter experience, shows that they're
probably not people you want on your mailing list anyway.  But if you
must, then just grit your teeth and make it work.  It's part of the job.)

Running a mailing list is work.  It means dealing with issues, monitoring
the logs, making sure RFC 2142 role addresses are working and paying
attention to what shows up there, maintaining archives, updating software,
suppressing abuse, and so on.  It's not an accident that there's a
high correlation between the best-run lists and the most useful ones --
and between the worst-run lists and chronic sources/conduits of abuse.

There can be some debate about the best methods for handling some of
these things: and there is.  But there's a baseline that nobody should be
below, and mandatory confirmed-in is part of it.  It is irresponsible,
unprofessional, ignorant, and abusive to run any mailing list of any
kind without it.

---rsk

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