Hi

If what you're asking is if we're publishing DMARC records for all our
customers domain, then the answer is both yes we do, and no we don't. We
publish DMARC if the customers have added DMARC themselves (we're a
shared hosting provider. Customers can add the DNS records they wish to
have). We do not automatically add DMARC or SPF records to any domain as
that will affect email delivery if they use any other servers to send
email (as many do). But we do publish DKIM keys and DKIM sign as there
are no adverse effects from that.

The domains affected by the "Too many messages" issues we see are
exclusively domains that have either:
- no SPF records
- SPF records that does not include our mail servers
- broken/invalid SPF records

The defer always comes after the MAIL FROM command.

@Andrew: You say "I have confirmed there is no issues with spf" what SPF
is that? From my experience the SPF record refered to in the "Too many
messages" error is the SPF record of the domain in the MAIL FROM command
and nothing else. So the SPF for mimecast.com wouldn't matter if you
send from @yourcustomer.tld

We've tried contacting btinternet (@postmaster and support) on several
occasions as this is a reoccurring issue with them, but the only answer
we've been able to get is that the sender address should have SPF.

-- 
BR/Mvh. Dan Malm, Systems Engineer, One.com

On 11/09/2017 10:40 AM, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Do you publish DMARC records? It might help to set those up if you
> haven't already.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> On 09/11/17 10:28, Sidsel Jensen wrote:
>> Hi Andrew
>>
>> We also face problems escalating issues through
>> postmas...@btinternet.com <mailto:postmas...@btinternet.com> :-/
>> If you do manage to get hold of them - please share how ;-)
>>
>> We currently have a pile of mails to btinternet being with stuck in
>> queue due to the same Defer msg that you get.
>>
>> Is there a good way to get an relatively new sending-IPs validated
>> with btinternet?
>> Our IPs have been warmed up nicely and when checking with
>> senderscore.com <http://senderscore.com> the score is 98
>>
>> Our problem is that not all our customers have an SPF record, we do
>> DKIM sign everything though.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Sidsel Jensen
>> Systems Engineer @ One.com <http://One.com>
>> s...@one.com <mailto:s...@one.com>
>>
>>
>>> On 9 Nov 2017, at 01.35, Andrew Gosney <agos...@mimecast.com
>>> <mailto:agos...@mimecast.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Is anyone from BT on this forum or has anyone had any experience
>>> escalating issues with BT? I’ve been going back and forth with
>>> postmaster for weeks with no resolution.
>>> Our issue is we keep receiving the following rejections:
>>> -/Too many messages (1.5.6.2) on 2017/10/27 01:10:05 BST from
>>> un-validated IP address:. Please add a SPF record for the domain to
>>> your DNS or ask your Broadband Provider / Domain Registrar to do
>>> this, we will be unable to deliver email until this is done due to
>>> the volume of email being sent from this IP address. Guide for bulk
>>> senderswww.bt.com/bulksender <http://www.bt.com/bulksender>/
>>> //
>>> -/Policy (1.3.6.1) Too much SPAM received from on 2017/10/27 08:32:20
>>> BST, if you share a mail server consider moving to a dedicated mail
>>> server not sending SPAM. Guide for bulk senderswww.bt.com/bulksender
>>> <http://www.bt.com/bulksender>/
>>> I have confirmed there is no issues with spf and all other bulk
>>> sender requirements are ok and our IP isn’t on any of the blacklists
>>> BT utilize.
>>> Any assistance would be appreciated.
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Gosney    m: +61 407 840 584    www.mimecast.com
>>> <http://www.mimecast.com/>
>>> Senior Messaging Security Analyst (L3)    p: +61 3 9017 5101   
>>> Address clickhere <http://www.mimecast.com/About-us/Contact-us/>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> <117110900353702143.png> <https://www.mimecast.com/>
>>>
>>>     
>>>     
>>> <117110900353701343.png>
>>> <https://eu-api.mimecast.com/s/click/XujAZpejvFW2OIhYbUKIG8G8eadBhBYHqUU0CY6ijKpIvsA2rp9pU7GHB_JgyofWFgWJEhhyJQ1PLlw1w2KjFWDppXNz3-X16PEPA8bOUKAWJc5nfDW5Xtc_-DZ1BpuvAT98NFyGuqds5eWGcWBzOvVhXQjb3XmOjeI-84TR90l3R3RfIstQX-SH6NjR2fpr7h-Ue-zbJbcqoXdYh6kYPQ>
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>> <117110900353701143.gif>
>>> <https://eu-api.mimecast.com/s/click/uYdzQzQXhDdHR-C0Isqh0urtYCeV6hU1O8QmkirEASOjlaveL_g42BziPdgzZQDWnN8TnCSy0pfE3E8fQtY_wd6q_5V3Ts2EmyQM8nlAoMgW3xXRVA2s2c1MHJgeIjoIyonz7ujsweoognINXlBba4IMtvZIaN4kgYdCPTr7GpFQ-rs9giU_Yy_itJzuGGxQiH2fDy80CxYLg5T-e4WyKQ>
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>> <117110900353701943.png>
>>> <https://eu-api.mimecast.com/s/click/OBmVNlyQjIVMDExi6Ss0HLCuJulf6RaYN7QJHfSFcVPmxmzaMCyk3fDj9xHN2u8l9ZJNLmIek7Bl0z1xlGERlsiTn5Dt4T6ipBdt_jx2C-DjtVCm4Sv1X9-mnSFlzkmg5lItu62L3mJw-QhLL9JRqdiuZXRQLckK2NelCVohGon5R5edS79nd8pwno-aVX2dzWAu3BAxflnxCxv053wEUw>
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>> <117110900353701543.png>
>>> <https://eu-api.mimecast.com/s/click/uYdzQzQXhDdHR-C0Isqh0jxQ1PEPH63VcEmgMCrM0lQci6S-q8qNKCIpYlp0LhwrNZsCiTr6ac_TFJajO_1BFeZs8WAM51R7FXJZWkTxWV-6l2HPD3YQ66jQvMd5h1M8zmnPDOlWa1hjbTws_6akuwP3l0DsV7eNV_MtnRlKPhR3glQVmWg2CWTJufP1b3xHARlhRSiv_XX8qLfwhv9BMA>
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>> <117110900353702343.gif>
>>> <https://eu-api.mimecast.com/s/click/ta4Eoos53TWGGPy2c4zTOBiFIaabI-jcr6RKZ9BpgPONaKjXZJb5Fl3mCvqxsaknV_PpaLaWokJbHJAtYkyiLrsI1qvHzCXZks3FwgFyNatcCaTRGhRP4dtqwgqDXTR8c3lW7Sx5sgriWRCUfHHtkWX4DWqYIh8IP7YzPxNQc75n2Up786FDiPHaII7YlYn_qB12PY2gOT9MFYThi9a4pg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <117110900353701743.gif>
>>> <https://eu-api.mimecast.com/s/click/uQWkx1ojkUjr1VxEtkyiB4vqdqzsb1l_4oIvkkzFXX-nstU-jtOyusfmQARv15C3V1VqwyA_sNWMaXedFCJEMgqV5h8OOuzpv0S8XdkBzj8eyGbOe102EnbaqkwGr7QM2qEPd1YidMsdi2vF-LcEET3Iu6inIDHgZjF5A_eYr0dEYbkdJfp9HdKEv4YsZTR1u0BR7ALn23_d04-PBo4emw>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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