On 2017-02-02 at 08:45 -0700, Rob Nagler wrote:
> I don't understand how Google determines when to put a red lock on the
> compose. When I send to f...@bivio.com it gets a red lock, but to
> f...@bivio.biz does not. They have different MXes. The MTAs are configured
> identically except for that mta.bivio.biz also accepts authenticated SMTP
> on 587. Both MTAs answer EHLO with STARTTLS. Any idea how to get rid of the
> red lock on compose in the @bivio.com case?

I don't work for Google so don't know about them for sure, but looking
from the side: the .biz domain does not have a pre-banner delay, the
.com domain has a very lengthy pre-banner delay.

So you hold up clients pre-banner if not known-good, on the assumption
that real clients in a store-and-forward system will wait; meanwhile
Google presumably have some kind of prober to check status for less-seen
domains and that needs to return in sufficient time to affect a
user-interface.  Within any reasonable client, it can't see STARTTLS
from your server, so marks it Red.

Disable the pre-banner delay for hosts on whitelists, and make sure that
Google's network ranges are on a sufficient whitelist to bypass the
delays, even if not to bypass other filtering?

-Phil

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