If you provide details off list I can have the spam team take a look.

Brandon
On Jan 20, 2015 8:30 PM, "Aaron Smith" <asm...@modena360.com.au> wrote:

>  Thanks for your replies, all insight is very much appreciated.
>
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> -          I can see the IPs used by the hosting provider do in fact have
> valid PTR records.
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> -          We do have a SPF record too, the hosting provider required us
> to create it when we setup the domain with their service. I tested the
> record with a few online tools and everything comes back with OK status.
>
>
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> When we did testing we were using black emails as well and randomly some
> emails would go to inbox and others would go to spam.
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> Thanks,
>
> AS
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>
>
> *From:* Howard F. Cunningham [mailto:howa...@macrollc.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 January 2015 2:48 PM
> *To:* Laura Atkins; Aaron Smith
> *Subject:* RE: [mailop] Gmail Spam Issue
>
>
>
> Laura
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>
> Two hours ago I answered Aaron…
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>
>
> Hi
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>
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> Since you have other clients using that hosted provider with no problems,
> this strikes me as not being the provider’s problem but rather something
> external to the provider.
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>
> Have you done the basics?
>
>
>
> -          Is there a valid PTR record?
>
> -          Is there a valid (and correct) SPF record? (a bad SPF record
> can cause more problems than no SPF record)
>
>
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> You will not receive a NDR if the email arrives and is delivered to the
> spam folder as the email was received and delivered to the user.
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> hc
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> Howard Cunningham, MCP
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> *From:* mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org
> <mailop-boun...@mailop.org>] *On Behalf Of *Laura Atkins
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:55 PM
> *To:* Aaron Smith
> *Cc:* mailop@mailop.org
> *Subject:* Re: [mailop] Gmail Spam Issue
>
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Aaron Smith <asm...@modena360.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi There,
>
>
>
> We’re currently looking into an issue with one of our clients having spam
> issues with Gmail as was hoping someone might have some ideas.
>
>
>
> When the client sends an email to a Gmail address, more often then not the
> email goes into the recipent’s spam folder (it’s not all going to spam,
> about 50%). We are not reciving any NDR either suggesting the emails are
> going through fine.
>
>
>
> We have triple checked that the domain and IPs are not blacklisted and
> have not had reports of issues other then Gmail recipents. I have also
> checked the content of the emails and they appear to be “spammy”, all the
> emails are just regular emails (not newsletter or anything).
>
>
>
> The client is using a Hosted Exchnage solution (via a Hosting provider)
> and we have tried to escalate the issue with them but have not been able to
> make much progress. We also have other clients using the same email
> provider that have not reported any issues so my thinking it is the domain
> that has a bad reputation at Gmail’s end for some reason.
>
>
>
> If someone from Google or anywhere else could shed some light into the
> issue that would be much appreciated. We are almost at the stage of moving
> providers (to O365) but my fear is it’s not going to fix the issue.
>
>
>
> Gmail maintains their own domain reputation, so if you're seeing mail go
> to spam then it's very possible it's domain reputation. Gmail also does a
> lot of recipient specific delivery, so it could be the recipient-specific
> filters.
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>
>
> The real question is what is different between the mail going to the inbox
> and the mail going to the bulk folder? If there is a difference, then
> that's where you focus. If there's not then you want to look at the
> client's email address collection and sending.
>
>
>
> It could be a mistake on Gmail's end, it wouldn't be the first time. But
> often the filters are picking up on something (spamtraps, or sending mail
> to abandoned accounts or complaints) that the sender is doing.
>
>
>
> laura
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>
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