Thanks for your replies, all insight is very much appreciated.

-          I can see the IPs used by the hosting provider do in fact have valid 
PTR records.

-          We do have a SPF record too, the hosting provider required us to 
create it when we setup the domain with their service. I tested the record with 
a few online tools and everything comes back with OK status.

When we did testing we were using black emails as well and randomly some emails 
would go to inbox and others would go to spam.

Thanks,

AS

From: Howard F. Cunningham [mailto:howa...@macrollc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2015 2:48 PM
To: Laura Atkins; Aaron Smith
Subject: RE: [mailop] Gmail Spam Issue

Laura

Two hours ago I answered Aaron...

Hi

Since you have other clients using that hosted provider with no problems, this 
strikes me as not being the provider's problem but rather something external to 
the provider.


Have you done the basics?


-          Is there a valid PTR record?

-          Is there a valid (and correct) SPF record? (a bad SPF record can 
cause more problems than no SPF record)

You will not receive a NDR if the email arrives and is delivered to the spam 
folder as the email was received and delivered to the user.


hc


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From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Laura Atkins
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:55 PM
To: Aaron Smith
Cc: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] Gmail Spam Issue

On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Aaron Smith 
<asm...@modena360.com.au<mailto:asm...@modena360.com.au>> wrote:

Hi There,

We're currently looking into an issue with one of our clients having spam 
issues with Gmail as was hoping someone might have some ideas.

When the client sends an email to a Gmail address, more often then not the 
email goes into the recipent's spam folder (it's not all going to spam, about 
50%). We are not reciving any NDR either suggesting the emails are going 
through fine.

We have triple checked that the domain and IPs are not blacklisted and have not 
had reports of issues other then Gmail recipents. I have also checked the 
content of the emails and they appear to be "spammy", all the emails are just 
regular emails (not newsletter or anything).

The client is using a Hosted Exchnage solution (via a Hosting provider) and we 
have tried to escalate the issue with them but have not been able to make much 
progress. We also have other clients using the same email provider that have 
not reported any issues so my thinking it is the domain that has a bad 
reputation at Gmail's end for some reason.

If someone from Google or anywhere else could shed some light into the issue 
that would be much appreciated. We are almost at the stage of moving providers 
(to O365) but my fear is it's not going to fix the issue.

Gmail maintains their own domain reputation, so if you're seeing mail go to 
spam then it's very possible it's domain reputation. Gmail also does a lot of 
recipient specific delivery, so it could be the recipient-specific filters.

The real question is what is different between the mail going to the inbox and 
the mail going to the bulk folder? If there is a difference, then that's where 
you focus. If there's not then you want to look at the client's email address 
collection and sending.

It could be a mistake on Gmail's end, it wouldn't be the first time. But often 
the filters are picking up on something (spamtraps, or sending mail to 
abandoned accounts or complaints) that the sender is doing.

laura

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