On 30 Sep 2020, at 21:24, Bill Cole wrote:

My point is that 'cmd' and 'alt' are usually not the same key. Maybe a picture of the left-side modifier keys (other than shift) of my old MacBook explains what I mean better:

I never said they were or thought they were.

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Note that 'option' is also labeled 'alt' and 'command' is marked '⌘' (an ancient artifact descended from the "Open Apple" key on Apple ][ keyboards) and on newer Mac US-English keyboards, option is marked '⌥' to match the symbols used in menus.

But the problem is that Apple, in their infinite wisdom decided not to label non-ascii keyboards with such key symbols. So, while it's less of an issue for me as someone used to programming, other people will have no idea where [], {}, etc. are.

The indentation menu commands are ⌘-[ and ⌘-] so on a keyboard with a ⌘ (command/cmd) key and an alt (option/⌥) key where you need alt-5 to get [, 'decrease indentation' would be ⌘-alt-5

Right. And this appears to be standard in other applications. For whatever reason, however, I struggle to remember most of these keyboard combinations, which is why if there is some kind of library that expands such shortcuts to the current key-mapping.

But how am I supposed to enter ⌥-⌘-[ if I need to use ⌥ to get [ ?

Some keyboards have "Meta" or "Windows" keys that might get mapped to ⌘. Mapping BOTH ⌘ and ⌥ to a single 'alt' key would be intrinsically broken, because they have always served distinct purposes.

Will the alt key be recognized doubly, once to produce the bracket and then to produce the shortcut? I gather he has to remap these shortcuts to completely other keys.

No, see above.

It is essential that you have distinct mappings for the distinct modifier keys.

I do have. But seeing as some of the shortcuts depend upon using the same modifier twice, I think I'm just screwed.

I guess it would be the same for you if a shortcut required ⌥-⌘-ß!

Charlie

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