On 30 Sep 2020, at 11:39, Robert Brenstein wrote:

He meant that to produce the left square bracket on the German keyboard, he needs to press alt-5 (option-5 if you will). So how do you produce a shortcut that itself requests the alt key to be hold.

My point is that 'cmd' and 'alt' are usually not the same key. Maybe a picture of the left-side modifier keys (other than shift) of my old MacBook explains what I mean better:

![](cid:21D5E9F3-2726-4F53-8260-78BCD8C30CB2@billmail.scconsult.com "IMG_1660.jpg")

Note that 'option' is also labeled 'alt' and 'command' is marked '⌘' (an ancient artifact descended from the "Open Apple" key on Apple ][ keyboards) and on newer Mac US-English keyboards, option is marked '⌥' to match the symbols used in menus.


The indentation menu commands are ⌘-[ and ⌘-] so on a keyboard with a ⌘ (command/cmd) key and an alt (option/⌥) key where you need alt-5 to get [, 'decrease indentation' would be ⌘-alt-5

Some keyboards have "Meta" or "Windows" keys that might get mapped to ⌘. Mapping BOTH ⌘ and ⌥ to a single 'alt' key would be intrinsically broken, because they have always served distinct purposes.

Will the alt key be recognized doubly, once to produce the bracket and then to produce the shortcut? I gather he has to remap these shortcuts to completely other keys.

It is essential that you have distinct mappings for the distinct modifier keys.

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