This isn't doing a lot for my self-esteem.

I'm now trying to install mailman-web and mailman-hyperkitty. Running the 'pip 
install' (as documented here 
https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#installing-web-ui) 
is giving me a similar setuptools error to the one I got before, although with 
a different version number:

    [SNIPPED successfully downloaded packages]
    Collecting django-haystack>=2.8.0 (from hyperkitty->mailman-web)
      Using cached django_haystack-3.3.0.tar.gz (467 kB)
      Installing build dependencies ... error
      error: subprocess-exited-with-error
    
      × pip subprocess to install build dependencies did not run successfully.
      │ exit code: 1
      ╰─> [2 lines of output]
          ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement 
setuptools>=61.2 (from versions: none)
          ERROR: No matching distribution found for setuptools>=61.2
          [end of output]
    
      note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a 
problem with pip.
    error: subprocess-exited-with-error
    
    × pip subprocess to install build dependencies did not run successfully.
    │ exit code: 1
    ╰─> See above for output.
    
    note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is likely not a problem 
with pip.

Running 'pip install setuptools' replies that it's already installed (which is 
what I expected, because I installed it earlier)

    Requirement already satisfied: setuptools in 
./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages (80.9.0)

I tried clearing pip's cache, but that made no difference. I am running as the 
mailman user in venv.

It seems to be somehow related to the django-haystack package. In fact, running 
'pip install django-haystack' results in the same error message. Perhaps I need 
to take it up with the maintainers of that.

-- 
Henry Hartley
Westat
RB 2151

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>> From: Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net>
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>> >> The next step in the instructions has me create 
>> >> /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg. The first thing in that file is shown as:
>> >>
>> >> [paths.here]
>> >> var_dir: /opt/mailman/mm/var
>> >>
>> >> Looking in /opt/mailman, there is no mm directory. Should that 
>> >> have been created, or is that something I need to create myself?
>> >
>> > You need to create it. I'll update the doc for that too.
>>
>> Actually, that's wrong. You don't need to create it. The first time you 
>> start Mailman core, it will be created.

Excellent. Thanks.

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Henry
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