On 6/5/25 08:40, Henry Hartley via Mailman-users wrote:

The other thing I had to do that was different to the instructions was to use pip to install setuptools. I got to a point 
where I had an error message that said "ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement 
setuptools>=40.8.0" but when I ran "apt install python3-setuptools" it reported that it was 
"already the newest version (68.1.2-2ubuntu1.2)". However, running pip install setuptools (on a whim) installed 
version 80.9.0. After that "pip install mailman" worked. Perhaps I should have known this. I feel that making 
sure setuptools is properly installed might be something to add to the installation instructions.


It depends how you create the venv. `virtualenv venv` will create the venv with `pip`, `setuptools` and `wheel` installed, but our install doc says do `python3 -m venv venv` and that only installs `pip` in the venv. I'll update the doc.

The next step in the instructions has me create /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg. The 
first thing in that file is shown as:

[paths.here]
var_dir: /opt/mailman/mm/var

Looking in /opt/mailman, there is no mm directory. Should that have been 
created, or is that something I need to create myself?

You need to create it. I'll update the doc for that too.

--
Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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