Pretty funny to notice that the topic 'libre' is taking new dimensions. Sad that it was me who started this post (just to have sm points cleared). Was enjoying all the discussions but now its getting 'personal'. I wonder when this list will turn professional. It would be nice if members could join some lists of Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), just to see how professional and helpful they are. Lets not deviate from the topics at hand, lets concentrate on the essence and technicality rather than ego clashes. After all, its Libre!!! Respect everyone as we no rights to judge people!!
Lets make this a wonderful n useful community, and bring in more people to participate... Regards, Dibu John Philip On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:10 PM, <[email protected]>wrote: > Send Mailinglist mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mailinglist digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: BSD-GNU Animosity (was Libre) (Althaf) > 2. Re: BSD-GNU Animosity (was Libre) (Mahesh Aravind) > 3. LinuxUG (Dibu Philip) > 4. Re: BSD-GNU Differences (was Libre) (Praveen A) > 5. Re: A small request on "Libre" (Praveen A) > 6. Re: LinuxUG (Praseed Pai) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:51:26 +0530 > From: Althaf <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] BSD-GNU Animosity (was Libre) > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]<83nr9df1ccvoc%2bjpidxn6rnovuhefn_4itv%[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Maneesh, With all due respect as my college senior, please refer RFC1855. > > Even, my tiny brain felt negative a vibes from your replies. > > PS: i have no other intention. > > - > Althaf K Backer > http://code.google.com/p/minix3-usbsubsystem/ > gt-i5503 > > On 27 Sep 2010 19:35, "Praveen A" <[email protected]> wrote: > > 2010/9/27 Mahesh Aravind <[email protected]>: > > > Back on Monday (/me rubs hands together) > Mahesh, > > dude, you are making it a personal fight. We were having a great > debate till now. There is nothing wrong in disgreeing with people, but > show some respect. > > > > You wish. If others in this list also thinks I'm making a "false blanket > > statement" let them co... > I thought many of your arguments were so lame. At least do some basic > research before bashing BSD. > > > > Maybe. Folks I've met wasn't very evangelical enough to coerce and > convert > > Windoze people. I'm ... > But your language is not helping much. We have had this debate before, > I have to do it again. > > > > > People ask questions so they can _know_! > Not like the way you do, if _they are expecting answers_! > > > > > This thread would have been a LOT MORE interesting if it was not for your > > condescending attitu... > You have a great role in making the thread deviate for a healthy debate. > > > > Anyway, I don't mind. You really show you're from the BSD-camp. > And where are you coming from? Are you such an incarnation of humility? > > > >> The trouble now is "Saturdays" are exclusively for my wife. > >> I have got the ultimatum for sit... > Dude, this is rude and totally out of place here. Please refrain from > attacking people personally. > > Mahesh, > > Are you the Chief Justice of Ilug-Cochin to judge people? > > PS: Especially your last line totally pissed me off. I have to control > myself from using even harsher words. > > -- > ???????? ??????????????????? > You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your > rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as > they follow the rules: laws and constitution. > > > _______________________________________________ > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > http://... > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/pipermail/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org/attachments/20100927/28e6132a/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 07:25:53 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mahesh Aravind <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software " > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] BSD-GNU Animosity (was Libre) > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > > > 2010/9/27 Mahesh Aravind <[email protected]>: > > > Back on Monday (/me rubs hands together) > > > > Mahesh, > > > > dude, you are making it a personal fight. We were having a great > > debate till now. There is nothing wrong in disgreeing with people, but > > show some respect. > > That wasn't for a "personal fight" or "debate". Siju's viewpoints are > interesting, and his links helpful. > > It IS exciting to see a thread where you could get to know more about > silent, > but dangerous issues. It was never hinted personally at him. > > > > > Are you the Chief Justice of Ilug-Cochin to judge people? > > > > I am voicing my personal opinion. It has nothing to do with collective > opinion > of ILUG-Cochin :-/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:37:52 +0530 > From: Dibu Philip <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILUG-Cochin.org] LinuxUG > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > It would b very nice if v could go back to GNU/Linux rather than Libre. > Just > my opinion. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/pipermail/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org/attachments/20100927/9a840a4c/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:32:19 +0530 > From: Praveen A <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] BSD-GNU Differences (was Libre) > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]<aanlktim6dep%[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2010/9/27 Mahesh Aravind <[email protected]>: > > How can the number of platforms can be directly proportional to the > quality of > > the operating system/kernel? > > At times some assumptions made based on one architecture alone can > introduce bugs in the software. Many time writing portable code > improves quality of the code. > > >> 11) The problems caused by signing an NDA and ?which community? BSD or > >> LInux does that > > > > I still don't get why BSDs are whining when Linux get a GPL'd driver (at > > whatever cost) which they couldn't achieve in their so called 40-years+ > of > > "ancestry"?? > > Do you know the story of the famous laser printer at MIT lab, which > RMS keeps telling? > > > > Whatever links you post are from a pro-BSD or BSD sites. People post > > differentiated opinions elsewhere. Pro-Linux/Pro-GNU sites are bashing > BSDs. > > Half-empty-half-full glass? Caveat User! > > There is a difference between pro-BSD and BSD developers. > > -- > ???????? ??????????????????? > You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your > rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as > they follow the rules: laws and constitution. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:36:54 +0530 > From: Praveen A <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] A small request on "Libre" > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2010/9/27 sreekanth sasikanth <[email protected]> > > > > Hi all, > > > > ??????? I stand with Anish on this. Even i would like to know about the > issues surrounding different licenses, but the thing looked to me like a > fight more than a discussion. I am sorry if i misinterpretted it. Anyways.. > its actually great to see people who know so much in depth about linceses. > Its a very much required knowledge as well. I suggest that one of you create > a wiki page that can contrast both the views. Well, i have decided to read > the mails with topic "Libre" from the very beginning :). And may be... make > a more understandable post on my blog some time in the next few weeks... he > he :D.. I think its the fact that i was not understanding anything that was > going on which prompted me to write that mail :).. Well, my heartfelt > apoligies to all the people who were part of that discussion :). > > Two of my blog posts about these topics, > > http://pravi.livejournal.com/15024.html > > http://pravi.livejournal.com/15900.html > > I will try to write more based on the current discussions. > -- > ???????? ??????????????????? > You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your > rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as > they follow the rules: laws and constitution. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:40:18 -0700 (PDT) > From: Praseed Pai <[email protected]> > To: GPL SoftwareThis List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] LinuxUG > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi All , > > > >Dibu Philip wrote > >?It would b very nice if v could go back to GNU/Linux rather than Libre. > Just my opinion. > > > ? > I too have that opinion. > ? > Here are my arguments (?all might not agree ) > ? > a) Excellent knowlege of Linux Adminstration is going to be a prized skill > ? > b) There is need for Linux C/C++ programmers for writing Application > Programs ( Every one is a kernel programmer now ! ) > ? > c) We can create a Business?Eco system around the Linux + GNU tools to > create more employment opportunities. > ? > d) There are good systems like Mono ( which can give MS run for their money > ) and there is?need ?for Linux/ Java Skill set in large numbers > ? > e) We can discuss stuff like FreeBSD , NetBSD , OpenBSD? etc.. > ? > ? > Other reason?is > ? > We are a crowded state. Pragmatism is the best philosophy here. FSF > philosophy is?a great idea for a sparsely populated country like USA or > Candada . For?Kerala , we need > to "relax" this to save us.? > ? > GNU hurd is never going to be a reality , so a 100% FSF owned computer > operating system is a myth. ( Linux has spread like a virus and people have > adopted it ) > ? > ? > ? > ? > regards > Praseed Pai > > --- On Mon, 9/27/10, Dibu Philip <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Dibu Philip <[email protected]> > Subject: [ILUG-Cochin.org] LinuxUG > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 11:07 AM > > > It would b very nice if v could go back to GNU/Linux rather than Libre. > Just my opinion. > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > _______________________________________________ > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > #[email protected] > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/pipermail/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org/attachments/20100927/a164a56e/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > #[email protected] > > End of Mailinglist Digest, Vol 87, Issue 71 > ******************************************* >
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