Hi,

On numerous machines.  MBP with 8 GB RAM and spinning HD.  Various iMacs with, 
of course, external keyboards.  These are the Apple extended keyboards.  Some 
with attached external HD's, some without.  MacPro with numerous internal HD's 
but no external ones.  All have likely been upgrade installs as I have yet to 
be convinced of the need for the clean install.  In fact, as I was just testing 
my MBP this morning trying to duplicate the issue, Control stopped my speech 
instantly without fail.  So, it's not an issue for me that would ever cause me 
to go through the effort of a total clean install.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 31, 2014, at 7:01 AM, Justin Mann <w9...@me.com> wrote:

> So for those of you who are experiencing this issue, what kind of 
> configuration do you have?  Hardware, external keyboards etc?
> On Jan 31, 2014, at 7:41 AM, Justin Mann <w9...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> So for those of you getting this issue, Is this after performing an update 
>> to Mavericks, or is this when using a computer that has a clean install?
>> On Jan 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sure.  Just start VO speaking, maybe start it reading an email.  then press 
>>> Control.  Previously, that would stop speech immediately.  Now, sometimes 
>>> it does, sometimes it doesn't.  And sometimes you get double-speech, which 
>>> speaks to Tim's theory that it's a buffering problem.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 31, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Justin Mann <w9...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi there,
>>>> 
>>>> Can someone provide me any steps to reproduce this issue?  I'd like to see 
>>>> this in action, as I'm not having the problem.
>>>> On Jan 31, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Wow, thanks for the advice, but no way! :)  That's the only problem I'm 
>>>>> having since upgrading, so definitely not worth doing a clean install.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Jan 31, 2014, at 6:05 AM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then, i suggest you do. It may be worth the effort. I only hear dual 
>>>>>> voices a little bit at the login window and speech stops when hitting 
>>>>>> ctrl one time. In only Mavericks upgrade i needed to hit two or three 
>>>>>> times. I can only speak for my system, so i do not promise anything. I 
>>>>>> have only experienced strange behavior with ZoomText and a dictionary 
>>>>>> program so far, but theese problems solved themselves after reboot it 
>>>>>> seems. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 31. jan. 2014 kl. 11:23 skrev Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I did not do a clean install.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2014, at 2:29 AM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Have you done a clean install of Mavericks on one of theese mac`s and 
>>>>>>> still have this problem?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 31. jan. 2014 kl. 03:09 skrev Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> lol, I'll buy it.  Makes sense in terms of the double speech also.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It happens to me as well in numerous situations on numerous machines 
>>>>>>>> and I've chalked it up to a buffering thing.  Not sure if that's 
>>>>>>>> actually valid, but it sounds good, so I'm sticking with it for now.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 3:32 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> thanks to all who have responded.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It sounds like at least a handful of us are experiencing this, always 
>>>>>>>>> good to know that I'm not just missing some keystroke change.  
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully they'll get this sorted out in a future release.
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 8:46 PM, don bishop <w6...@donbishop.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Control will usually stop speech with Mavericks on my imac, but 
>>>>>>>>>> there are times when it will not.  I haven't figured out a pattern 
>>>>>>>>>> to this behavior. 
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.  Control still stops speech for me.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>>>>>>>>>> blind built-in!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 
>>>>>>>>>>> user!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that since upgrading to Mavericks, hitting the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> control key no longer stops speech.  Is anyone else seeing this?  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Has that keystroke changed?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
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