Hello April, I can understand your frustration. It took me 4 months to learn how to do anything on the Mac. I do agree, there is a degree that you will have to learn things on your own. But here are a few pointers.
Asuming Voiceover is on and running, and working right. As mentioned when you press VO it is the two keys at the left of the spacebar. At the left of the spacebar, there is cmd, then options, then ctrl then FM key at the very left. So if both Options, and ctrl key is pressed, and do another key like left or right arrow for navigation or press spacebar to select that is a Voiceover command. When you are surfing Safari here are some pointers. VO and L takes you directly to the address bar. once you type what you want or search, press enter. Now if you hit VO and right or left arrow you can navigate around the app. To go into the Toolbar you will have to Interact, which is VO shift down arrow, then you can navigate left or right using VO left or right arrow. Once you are done, to deinteract press VO shift Up arrow. Now to get to the acuall webpage, VO right arrow until the very end and it says HTML and you need to interact by pressing VO shift down arrow. Once you are in the webpage you can navigate by Links, Headings, or jump to text fields, there are other ways to jump around but those are the first basic you will need to use. I for one use the rotor command to get my rotor command like jump by heading or links, but I don’t know the keyboard command. Also if you want to get to the Menu, press VO m, and to get to menu extra press VO and press m twice. One thing that helped me advance using Voiceover is not to look at the screen. For those that rely on vision, they will never will truly learn to rely on screen readers.I hope this will help some. I would very much recommend to get used to Voiceover preferences and understand what they do. To use a screenreader, it is a steep learning curve, but the payoff is worth it. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 10, 2014, at 2:42 PM, April Brown <aprilbrownwr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Greg Aikens, > > I don't know. That time I heard it say HTML, and Control+Option+Shift+ > arrow just beeped again. It got stuck up there in the title at one point. > Will this actually read a post to you ? Is it supposed to? > > I have to put it down for the night. Timer to feed the animals and me. > > Thanks, > > April > > On Friday, January 10, 2014 3:06:54 PM UTC-5, Greg Aikens wrote: > Hi April, > Are you interacting with the web page before you try to navigate it? You > need to move to the part that says html view and interact with it using > Control+option+shift+down arrow. Then you should be able to use VO+left and > right arrows to move through the page. Interacting is confusing at first but > not bad once you get used to it. If you need a more in depth explanation of > interacting, let us know. > > Thanks, > Greg > > On Jan 10, 2014, at 2:57 PM, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello Ray Foret, >> >> All the directions say VO + left or right should work. However, it >> only beeps if you do that. And I don't know why. Even the up and down >> arrow cause it to beep. >> >> Actually, this is my first Mac, and I had to re-label my bumblebee >> keyboard. >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> On Friday, January 10, 2014 2:51:06 PM UTC-5, Ray Foret jr wrote: >> April, sounds like you need to relax and try this. >> >> IF you press VO+left or right, you can navigate any web page usually just >> fine with voice OVer. I will not nor can I provide step by step >> instructions for every little operation. That’s not the best way to learn >> Voice OVer anyhow. The best way is the way you started: by just doing it. >> So, let me give you the following things. >> >> 1. Do you know what I mean by pressing VO+left or VO+right? What I mean is >> the key combination of control+Option+left, right up or down arrow. So, >> whenever someone here tells you to press say VO+right, for exampel, what >> they will mean is that you should press control+Option+left or right. >> Surely, you know the Apple keyboard enough to know that your option key is >> right next to your control key and on its right. >> >> Pressing VO+space will be the usual way to click on a web page link or >> activate something. In some cases, however, the return key will be used to >> open some web streams. That is a case by case thing you’ll just have to >> play with it. >> >> 2. Keyboard help. To get in to keyboard help, press VO+k. Now, with >> keyboard help on, you can type what ever you wish to type and you will be >> informed what each key or group of keys does and this includes many Voice >> Over commands also. To get out of keyboard help, press escape. >> >> 3. To get help with Voice Over at any time, press VO+h. For a list of all >> Voice OVer commands, Press VO+h twice. >> >> That should help to get you started good. >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> On Jan 10, 2014, at 1:43 PM, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Please help me. >>> >>> I can design a website with HTML and CSS sheets, working links, and >>> shopping cart, and can't figure out how to make VoiceOver work. >>> >>> I've probably read every online manual I can find. And still, it's a no go. >>> >>> I spent probably two hours on it today. Somehow, it did almost work in >>> Mail. >>> >>> As for the Internet. I tried every key combination listed in all the web >>> manuals I down loaded and printed to no avail. Sure, it would the top line >>> that says " >>> File, Edit," etc... One time, I even got it to read the left pane in >>> Twitter. I still cannot get it to read posts in Twitter, these forums, >>> Google Plus, or Facebook. >>> >>> Can someone please treat this old web designer like someone who has never >>> turned on a computer and tell me the steps to use VoiceOver to read a >>> simple webpage. I figure, if I can learn to use it on Twitter, I can >>> figure the rest out. 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