Good Day: Have you tried repairing disk permissions? For whatever reason, it seems to solve some problems of sluggishness under any version of Mac OS. Of course, a clean install would also seem to do the trick, but I know you are reluctant to go that route.
HTH: Henry Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last. Sherlock Holmes On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:32, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > I thought Time Machine was the problem, so turned it off, but that made no > difference. I've had Mavericks installed for over a month now, so I thought > any indexing would have finished. How would I check? Activity Monitor shows > no unusually resource-hungry processes I can see. > On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: > >> Wonder if Spotlight is indexing your drive or maybe a time machine backup >> running? Have you poked around in Activity Monitor to check CPU load or disk >> activity levels? >> >> CB >> >> On 1/7/14 11:05 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> Assuming I did it right, nothing changed. It took at least fifteen to >>> twenty seconds to open an Mp3 file with VLC, and that's normal under >>> Mavericks. VO stutters, audio sometimes breaks up, Safari can take a few >>> seconds to respond when I switch to it, and the whole system just feels >>> sluggish in most cases. Some things are fine, like writing text or arrowing >>> around tables, but opening apps or windows, or switching windows, almost >>> makes me wish I were on Windows. I hate to say that, but weever I boot into >>> Windows I love how the OS does what I tell it to with no delays, instead of >>> the small to large delays under Mavericks. Even previous OS10 versions had >>> that bit of lag, sort of like using a Windows screen reader with a large >>> voice, but worse in some ways. Mavericks seems to have intensified those >>> problems. >>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Interesting. So it's not memory unless you're running something really >>>> memory hungry like some virtual machines or something. Did the SMC reset >>>> do anything? >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> On 1/7/14 12:18 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>> My Mini came with 2gb, and that was miserable. I had half-formed dreams >>>>> of switching to a Macbook, but I finally caved about ten months ago and >>>>> got 8gb from new egg.com. The difference is extraordinary! I never run >>>>> out now, though, as I said, performance is worse now than under Mountain >>>>> Lion. That's ironic, as one big feature of Mavericks was the lower memory >>>>> usage and better performance. Whatever Apple says, when a 2007 Mini >>>>> running Lion feels way snappier than my 2011 Mini running Mavericks, we >>>>> have a serious problem. >>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hope it helps. I usually start having performance issues when I run out >>>>>> of RAM than anything else. Not as big an issue now that I have 8GB but >>>>>> it was kinda tight when I had 4. >>>>>> >>>>>> CB >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/6/14 11:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>> Thanks, and it's worth a shot. However, I've seen no improvement at all >>>>>>> after doing the PRAM reset, except that Spoken Items seems to respond >>>>>>> faster the couple times I've used it. Still, anything to avoid a >>>>>>> complete re-install of my OS (and, more to the point, all my apps and >>>>>>> settings) is fine with me. >>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to Apple you can reset the SMC on a mini by shutting it >>>>>>>> down, unplugging it from power for 15 seconds, plugging it back in, >>>>>>>> waiting 5 seconds and powering it back up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 6:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>> Thanks. My troubles are more slowness opening mail and apps, and >>>>>>>>> occasional audio stuttering even with Voiceover. I still haven't gone >>>>>>>>> ahead with the huge step of the clean install, but maybe resetting >>>>>>>>> the PRAM will help things. It's worth a shot at least. This SMC reset >>>>>>>>> does not seem as likely to help, and I have a Mini so can't remove >>>>>>>>> the battery or anything. >>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The PRAM reset stuff happens as part of the hardware self-check, >>>>>>>>>> long before any boot loaders and other software is executed. What >>>>>>>>>> are the advantages of resetting the PRAM? PRAM is used to hold a lot >>>>>>>>>> of little details semi-permanently. Things related to which >>>>>>>>>> drive/partition to boot, speaker/sound settings, display settings >>>>>>>>>> and more. If they get mangled somehow your machine can start >>>>>>>>>> behaving badly while it goes on a fruitless search for a drive which >>>>>>>>>> doesn't exist or route sound to nowhere. So doing a resent puts >>>>>>>>>> things back to factory fresh. Exactly what is stored on PRAM varies >>>>>>>>>> between Mac models. There is also the SMC for System Management >>>>>>>>>> Controller on Intel Macs. The SMC controls things like power, fans >>>>>>>>>> and system performance so you might want to try resetting that as >>>>>>>>>> well. On a laptop you'll have to unplug it, pull the battery and >>>>>>>>>> hold down the power button for 5 seconds to drain the last bit of >>>>>>>>>> juice. That resets the SMC to factory. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 4:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> What if you have a boot manager? I have Refit installed, so will >>>>>>>>>>> this work for me or do I need to boot into Mac and then hold down >>>>>>>>>>> the keys? Also, what exactly are the advantages of doing this? I've >>>>>>>>>>> heard a lot about it, but am not sure why one might actually need >>>>>>>>>>> to do it. >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Power down your machine, hold down command+option+P+R and keep >>>>>>>>>>>> holding them while you power up the machine. You should hear the >>>>>>>>>>>> startup sound after a bit. I usually keep them down until I've >>>>>>>>>>>> heard the startup sound a couple time - maybe three or four - and >>>>>>>>>>>> then let off the keys to allow a normal startup. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 12:13 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone explain the procedure to reset the Prams on a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>> My system has slowed down and I think this might help. I tried >>>>>>>>>>>>> to search the archives, but could not do so as I didn't find a >>>>>>>>>>>>> link in the e-mail message to do so as is the case with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone list. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>>  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>>  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄ >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >>  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄ >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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