Good Day:

        Have you tried repairing disk permissions? For whatever reason, it 
seems to solve some problems of sluggishness under any version of Mac OS. Of 
course, a clean install would also seem to do the trick, but I know you are 
reluctant to go that route.

HTH:
Henry
Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.
Sherlock Holmes

On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:32, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I thought Time Machine was the problem, so turned it off, but that made no 
> difference. I've had Mavericks installed for over a month now, so I thought 
> any indexing would have finished. How would I check? Activity Monitor shows 
> no unusually resource-hungry processes I can see.
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Wonder if Spotlight is indexing your drive or maybe a time machine backup 
>> running? Have you poked around in Activity Monitor to check CPU load or disk 
>> activity levels?
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 1/7/14 11:05 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> Assuming I did it right, nothing changed. It took at least fifteen to 
>>> twenty seconds to open an Mp3 file with VLC, and that's normal under 
>>> Mavericks. VO stutters, audio sometimes breaks up, Safari can take a few 
>>> seconds to respond when I switch to it, and the whole system just feels 
>>> sluggish in most cases. Some things are fine, like writing text or arrowing 
>>> around tables, but opening apps or windows, or switching windows, almost 
>>> makes me wish I were on Windows. I hate to say that, but weever I boot into 
>>> Windows I love how the OS does what I tell it to with no delays, instead of 
>>> the small to large delays under Mavericks. Even previous OS10 versions had 
>>> that bit of lag, sort of like using a Windows screen reader with a large 
>>> voice, but worse in some ways. Mavericks seems to have intensified those 
>>> problems.
>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Interesting. So it's not memory unless you're running something really 
>>>> memory hungry like some virtual machines or something. Did the SMC reset 
>>>> do anything?
>>>> 
>>>> CB
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/7/14 12:18 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>> My Mini came with 2gb, and that was miserable. I had half-formed dreams 
>>>>> of switching to a Macbook, but I finally caved about ten months ago and 
>>>>> got 8gb from new egg.com. The difference is extraordinary! I never run 
>>>>> out now, though, as I said, performance is worse now than under Mountain 
>>>>> Lion. That's ironic, as one big feature of Mavericks was the lower memory 
>>>>> usage and better performance. Whatever Apple says, when a 2007 Mini 
>>>>> running Lion feels way snappier than my 2011 Mini running Mavericks, we 
>>>>> have a serious problem.
>>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope it helps. I usually start having performance issues when I run out 
>>>>>> of RAM than anything else. Not as big an issue now that I have 8GB but 
>>>>>> it was kinda tight when I had 4.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/6/14 11:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks, and it's worth a shot. However, I've seen no improvement at all 
>>>>>>> after doing the PRAM reset, except that Spoken Items seems to respond 
>>>>>>> faster the couple times I've used it. Still, anything to avoid a 
>>>>>>> complete re-install of my OS (and, more to the point, all my apps and 
>>>>>>> settings) is fine with me.
>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> According to Apple you can reset the SMC on a mini by shutting it 
>>>>>>>> down, unplugging it from power for 15 seconds, plugging it back in, 
>>>>>>>> waiting 5 seconds and powering it back up.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 6:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks. My troubles are more slowness opening mail and apps, and 
>>>>>>>>> occasional audio stuttering even with Voiceover. I still haven't gone 
>>>>>>>>> ahead with the huge step of the clean install, but maybe resetting 
>>>>>>>>> the PRAM will help things. It's worth a shot at least. This SMC reset 
>>>>>>>>> does not seem as likely to help, and I have a Mini so can't remove 
>>>>>>>>> the battery or anything.
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The PRAM reset stuff happens as part of the hardware self-check, 
>>>>>>>>>> long before any boot loaders and other software is executed. What 
>>>>>>>>>> are the advantages of resetting the PRAM? PRAM is used to hold a lot 
>>>>>>>>>> of little details semi-permanently. Things related to which 
>>>>>>>>>> drive/partition to boot, speaker/sound settings, display settings 
>>>>>>>>>> and more. If they get mangled somehow your machine can start 
>>>>>>>>>> behaving badly while it goes on a fruitless search for a drive which 
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't exist or route sound to nowhere. So doing a resent puts 
>>>>>>>>>> things back to factory fresh. Exactly what is stored on PRAM varies 
>>>>>>>>>> between Mac models. There is also the SMC for System Management 
>>>>>>>>>> Controller on Intel Macs. The SMC controls things like power, fans 
>>>>>>>>>> and system performance so you might want to try resetting that as 
>>>>>>>>>> well. On a laptop you'll have to unplug it, pull the battery and 
>>>>>>>>>> hold down the power button for 5 seconds to drain the last bit of 
>>>>>>>>>> juice. That resets the SMC to factory.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 4:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> What if you have a boot manager? I have Refit installed, so will 
>>>>>>>>>>> this work for me or do I need to boot into Mac and then hold down 
>>>>>>>>>>> the keys? Also, what exactly are the advantages of doing this? I've 
>>>>>>>>>>> heard a lot about it, but am not sure why one might actually need 
>>>>>>>>>>> to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Power down your machine, hold down command+option+P+R and keep 
>>>>>>>>>>>> holding them while you power up the machine. You should hear the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> startup sound after a bit. I usually keep them down until I've 
>>>>>>>>>>>> heard the startup sound a couple time - maybe three or four - and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> then let off the keys to allow a normal startup.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 12:13 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone explain the procedure to reset the Prams on a Mac?  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My system has slowed down and I think this might help.  I tried 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to search the archives, but could not do so as I didn't find a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> link in the e-mail message to do so as is the case with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone list.  Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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