I thought Time Machine was the problem, so turned it off, but that made no 
difference. I've had Mavericks installed for over a month now, so I thought any 
indexing would have finished. How would I check? Activity Monitor shows no 
unusually resource-hungry processes I can see.
On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:

> Wonder if Spotlight is indexing your drive or maybe a time machine backup 
> running? Have you poked around in Activity Monitor to check CPU load or disk 
> activity levels?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/7/14 11:05 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Assuming I did it right, nothing changed. It took at least fifteen to twenty 
>> seconds to open an Mp3 file with VLC, and that's normal under Mavericks. VO 
>> stutters, audio sometimes breaks up, Safari can take a few seconds to 
>> respond when I switch to it, and the whole system just feels sluggish in 
>> most cases. Some things are fine, like writing text or arrowing around 
>> tables, but opening apps or windows, or switching windows, almost makes me 
>> wish I were on Windows. I hate to say that, but weever I boot into Windows I 
>> love how the OS does what I tell it to with no delays, instead of the small 
>> to large delays under Mavericks. Even previous OS10 versions had that bit of 
>> lag, sort of like using a Windows screen reader with a large voice, but 
>> worse in some ways. Mavericks seems to have intensified those problems.
>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting. So it's not memory unless you're running something really 
>>> memory hungry like some virtual machines or something. Did the SMC reset do 
>>> anything?
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 1/7/14 12:18 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>> My Mini came with 2gb, and that was miserable. I had half-formed dreams of 
>>>> switching to a Macbook, but I finally caved about ten months ago and got 
>>>> 8gb from new egg.com. The difference is extraordinary! I never run out 
>>>> now, though, as I said, performance is worse now than under Mountain Lion. 
>>>> That's ironic, as one big feature of Mavericks was the lower memory usage 
>>>> and better performance. Whatever Apple says, when a 2007 Mini running Lion 
>>>> feels way snappier than my 2011 Mini running Mavericks, we have a serious 
>>>> problem.
>>>> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hope it helps. I usually start having performance issues when I run out 
>>>>> of RAM than anything else. Not as big an issue now that I have 8GB but it 
>>>>> was kinda tight when I had 4.
>>>>> 
>>>>> CB
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/6/14 11:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks, and it's worth a shot. However, I've seen no improvement at all 
>>>>>> after doing the PRAM reset, except that Spoken Items seems to respond 
>>>>>> faster the couple times I've used it. Still, anything to avoid a 
>>>>>> complete re-install of my OS (and, more to the point, all my apps and 
>>>>>> settings) is fine with me.
>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> According to Apple you can reset the SMC on a mini by shutting it down, 
>>>>>>> unplugging it from power for 15 seconds, plugging it back in, waiting 5 
>>>>>>> seconds and powering it back up.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 6:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks. My troubles are more slowness opening mail and apps, and 
>>>>>>>> occasional audio stuttering even with Voiceover. I still haven't gone 
>>>>>>>> ahead with the huge step of the clean install, but maybe resetting the 
>>>>>>>> PRAM will help things. It's worth a shot at least. This SMC reset does 
>>>>>>>> not seem as likely to help, and I have a Mini so can't remove the 
>>>>>>>> battery or anything.
>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The PRAM reset stuff happens as part of the hardware self-check, long 
>>>>>>>>> before any boot loaders and other software is executed. What are the 
>>>>>>>>> advantages of resetting the PRAM? PRAM is used to hold a lot of 
>>>>>>>>> little details semi-permanently. Things related to which 
>>>>>>>>> drive/partition to boot, speaker/sound settings, display settings and 
>>>>>>>>> more. If they get mangled somehow your machine can start behaving 
>>>>>>>>> badly while it goes on a fruitless search for a drive which doesn't 
>>>>>>>>> exist or route sound to nowhere. So doing a resent puts things back 
>>>>>>>>> to factory fresh. Exactly what is stored on PRAM varies between Mac 
>>>>>>>>> models. There is also the SMC for System Management Controller on 
>>>>>>>>> Intel Macs. The SMC controls things like power, fans and system 
>>>>>>>>> performance so you might want to try resetting that as well. On a 
>>>>>>>>> laptop you'll have to unplug it, pull the battery and hold down the 
>>>>>>>>> power button for 5 seconds to drain the last bit of juice. That 
>>>>>>>>> resets the SMC to factory.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 4:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> What if you have a boot manager? I have Refit installed, so will 
>>>>>>>>>> this work for me or do I need to boot into Mac and then hold down 
>>>>>>>>>> the keys? Also, what exactly are the advantages of doing this? I've 
>>>>>>>>>> heard a lot about it, but am not sure why one might actually need to 
>>>>>>>>>> do it.
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Power down your machine, hold down command+option+P+R and keep 
>>>>>>>>>>> holding them while you power up the machine. You should hear the 
>>>>>>>>>>> startup sound after a bit. I usually keep them down until I've 
>>>>>>>>>>> heard the startup sound a couple time - maybe three or four - and 
>>>>>>>>>>> then let off the keys to allow a normal startup.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/6/14 12:13 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone explain the procedure to reset the Prams on a Mac?  My 
>>>>>>>>>>>> system has slowed down and I think this might help.  I tried to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> search the archives, but could not do so as I didn't find a link 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the e-mail message to do so as is the case with the iPhone 
>>>>>>>>>>>> list.  Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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