What happens to me, is that I can work correctly with textedit on page one, but when I go to page 2, VoiceOver won’t read with the regular commands. What can we do about? I already unchecked the page wrap. Thanks!
Daniela Rubio T Distinguished Educator iPhone: +34662328507 El 30/10/2013, a las 23:03, Andrew Lamanche <andrew.laman...@gmail.com> escribió: > Dear Anne, > > You wrote: > > "I’m not having your problems with TextEdit under Mavericks. I always > interact with the text and Find commands work correctly" > Anne, thank you for responding. Maybe it has to do with my setup but I can't > think what may be different. When I interact with the text, I can use vo + > arrows to read the text and vo+shift + arrows to spell words but I can't use > any of the editing commands like highlighting or deleting. I'm sorry to sound > panicky but these rtf files are work-related and I got anxious as one would > of course. The mac computer on which I have installed maverick is old but it > used to run Mountain Lion successfully. I did an extensive search on the > internet as regards which macs would run Maverick and the overwhelming > impression I got from all the comments was that if one's computer could run > mountain lion it should also run Maverick. That's why I have installed > Maverick. I guess I just have to accept that I won't be able to edit rtf in > TextEdit nor iText express now. Do you understand why Pages won't open or > deal with rtf files? I thought Pages was a word processor that should be able > to deal with a variety of existing formats. > Also, Anne, when you interact with the text in TextEdit, I presume that you > would interact by the usual way of vo+shift+down arrow. Can you then select > text by using for instance shift+option + down arrow to select a line? Or are > there different key strokes to select and manipulate text? > > Thank you for the time you took to respond to my woes. > > With best wishes > > Andrew > > On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:10, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > >> Today's Topic Summary >> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics >> >> The Calendar is weird on the Mac. [6 Updates] >> Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts [1 Update] >> Disk Maker X [1 Update] >> Converting outlook express mail to apple mail. [1 Update] >> TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to [8 >> Updates] >> Mac Calender (Openning Events) [3 Updates] >> Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames [2 Updates] >> Stopping VO Speech [2 Updates] >> The Calendar is weird on the Mac. >> Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> Oct 30 06:34PM >> >> Hello All. >> >> I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the >> Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar. >> >> At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo Down >> arrow which got me into my list of events. >> >> Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running. >> >> I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over >> may not have any. >> >> Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess >> work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it. >> >> Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of you >> who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean. >> >> Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows >> you could do insert T for the title of application or document. >> >> I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless >> something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in >> due course. >> I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it. >> >> Kawal. >> >> Daniela Rubio <mabuha...@gmail.com> Oct 30 07:37PM +0100 >> >> Hi! >> To know the title of an app, hit VO+f1. To know the title of a window, hit >> VO+f2. This, understanding that your function keys work as standard keys. >> Best >> >> Distinguished Educator >> iPhone: +34662328507 >> >> >> >> >> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Oct 30 01:28PM -0600 >> >> Hi, >> >> I guess I must be used to the Calendar on the Mac as I’m not experiencing >> your frustration. Note the following when in Day View: >> >> 1. If you navigate around the screen, you’ll have Previous Day, Today and >> Next Day buttons as well as the current month grid and two areas for today’s >> events. One is sort of a summary thing that you can drill down into and the >> other is the more editable List of Events Table. >> >> 2. When you Interact with the List of events Table, then, contrary to my >> last post about the Calendar app, you are able to edit/delete events easily. >> To edit the event, simply navigate to it then press cmd-i (Get Info) or >> cmd-e (Edit Event) which, by the way, appear to bring up the same window. To >> delete the event, navigate to it then press the Delete key and follow the >> prompt. When I posted in Neil’s question, I was in Month view so it was not >> as easy as in Day view. >> >> 3. When you Interact with the Month Grid, you can quickly whip around >> through the month and VO will announce if the specific day has any events in >> it. You can drill down into that day while in the Month Grid and use VO >> navigation to hear the events and can press cmd-i to edit it if you wish. If >> you decide to delete it,, it’s easier, in my opinion, to navigate to the >> List of Events Table and delete it from there. >> >> HTH. >> >> Later… >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> >> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Oct 30 09:05PM +0100 >> >> Hello Kawal, >> >> In Calendar, have you tried using the command VO-Cmd-x to go to Next List? >> >> Also, when you want to find a command, try doing VO-h-h to get the complete >> list of VO commands. You’ll be amazed at what you find. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Oct 30 02:13PM -0600 >> >> > Hi, >> >> I forgot to mention that cmd-right arrow goes to the next day, cmd-left >> arrow for Previous day, and cmd-t for going directly to Today if you’re >> somewhere else in the calendar of events. I believe that the cmd-right and >> cmd-left will morph accordingly if you change to Week, Month or Year views. >> >> Later… >> >> >> Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> Oct 30 08:43PM >> >> No I haven’t Anne. Will give it a go. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Kawal. >> >> Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts >> Shimzin Lists <shimzin.li...@gmail.com> Oct 31 08:53AM +1300 >> >> >> Disk Maker X >> Daniel C <topdog2...@gmail.com> Oct 30 02:34PM -0500 >> >> Hi, >> I was trying out Disk Maker X, now that I’ve upgraded to Mavericks, and it >> says that it has no windows. I don’t seem to be able to quit it without >> going to force quit. >> How am I able to make a boot disk since Disk Maker X won’t work? >> >> Converting outlook express mail to apple mail. >> Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> Oct 30 01:58PM -0500 >> >> Sent from my iPhoneHey guys, I have a curious question. And, you can answer >> me here, or off list or you can message me on facebook or text my number, >> 334 296 3558, whichever is easiest because I need to know soon. I have a >> patron who is trying to convert his outlook mail to apple mail with no >> success. Does anybody have any idea how to perform this and if so, which >> direction can I point him. Thanks and take care. If you me/sage me on >> facebook or text me just let me know who you are. Thanks andtalk. toyou. >> soon,like. I said I didn't know how to get answers quickly andI. don't have >> time just to monitor the list. Thanksand. takecare. >> >> TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to >> Andrew Lamanche <andrew.laman...@gmail.com> Oct 30 03:44PM >> >> Listers, >> >> I am having problems with rtf files in TextEdit and iText express. Whilst I >> used to be able to read them and edit them by using just arrow keys in >> Mountain Lion, in Maverick, I don't seem to be able to do this. I have to >> interact with the text area to be able to read by line but then I can't >> delete text or look for text with find facility. The same is true of iText >> express. I thought Pages might do it so I have just purchased it and what a >> disappointment! Pages won't even see rtf files in my folders. Disaster! I >> had to convert rtf to txt format in order to get back to being able to edit >> and arrow up and down the text. >> >> Has anyone else noticed it as well? >> >> Look forward to your experiences/tips. >> >> Andrew >> >> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Oct 30 06:06PM +0100 >> >> Hello Andrew, >> >> I’m not having your problems with TextEdit under Mavericks. I always >> interact with the text and Find commands work correctly. >> >> Have you repaired permissions lately? Also, resetting the PRAM can also fix >> weird problems. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> Oct 30 12:30PM -0500 >> >> How does one reset the Pram again? I seem always to forget that. >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> >> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Oct 30 06:44PM +0100 >> >> Hello Ray, >> >> To reset the PRAM, shut down your computer, then hold down the following >> four keys: Command, Option, letter p and letter r. With these held down, >> press the Power key once and keep the other four keys held down until you’ve >> heard the start up chime four times. Let go and the machine will boot as >> usual. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> Oct 30 01:16PM -0500 >> >> Hi guys >> Bad news! We don't know it, but when we select text in TextEdit in >> Mavericks, it might be selected and we don't know it. Just before Apple put >> me back to Mountain Lion, I was on the Remote Advisor screen, and I showed >> the Apple representative under TextEdit (rtf file, that is). I said I >> couldn't delete anything. That wasn't the thing, he told me. It would delete >> just fine, but VoiceOver wasn't saying things right. I had selected them, >> and when he told me, I deleted the text I wanted to take out. >> >> The braille display that I helped to make worse and TextEdit problems are >> why I was put back into Mountain Lion. I have to have TextEdit for my work. >> ;the frustrating thing is, I really need the update for Numbers. I found it >> to be better than the old one. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi who used to break programs for Freedom Scientific and who is now >> happily breaking them for Apple now >> >> >> BBS <bigbigshawn....@gmail.com> Oct 30 01:23PM -0500 >> >> On a similar note, when I use Text Edit, I’m noticing that I can’t open a >> big folder anymore. All Voiceover says is browser when I tap the right arrow >> to go in the folder. >> >> Shawn >> Sent From My White Mac Book >> >> >> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Oct 30 07:28PM +0100 >> >> Hello Gigi, >> >> I’m using TextEdit under Mavericks and when I select text, VoiceOver says >> the text followed by “highlighted”. I interact with the text so that the VO >> commands will work. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> Oct 30 01:32PM -0500 >> >> Thanks Anne. I am glad to hear it. Maybe it had something to do with the >> fact that I had my Braille Edge 40 on there before I supidly took it off. >> VoiceOver refused to recognize any braille displays after that, and I seemed >> to be having some terrible navigation issues. So maybe this relates to >> something on my computer and not something in general. I still have an open >> case, so as soon as I can, I am going to call Apple back and see what's >> what. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> >> Mac Calender (Openning Events) >> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Oct 30 11:12AM -0600 >> >> Hi, >> >> • To edit the event, try cmd-i to Get Info. >> >> • To delete an event is not as nice with VO. You’re supposed to be able to >> click on the event then press the Delete key, but this is less than useful >> with VO. I was able to delete an event by selecting it then going up to the >> Edit menu and choosing Delete. Not as pleasant but workable. >> >> HTH. >> >> Later… >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> >> Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> Oct 30 05:20PM >> >> Tim, >> >> What you describe has always been the default behaviour. >> >> I have always found the calendar in Mountain Lion difficult on the Mac. >> However, I don’t know if it’s improved under Mavericks. It’s better on IOS7 >> but you can’t get rid of birthdays especially if they came from MSN >> messenger as I have birthdays in my calendar from people when I was using >> Linctin. >> >> Kawal. >> >> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Oct 30 11:46AM -0600 >> >> Hi, >> >> What’s likely happening with the birthdays, is that you don’t have >> permission to edit/delete them. When events come to your calendar from an >> outside source such as FaceBook, Linctin etc, then you don’t have edit >> privileges for that item, just read privileges. >> >> Later… >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> >> Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames >> Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> Oct 30 12:28PM -0500 >> >> The more things like this we report to Apple, the more they will have to fix >> them. >> >> accessibil...@apple.com >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> >> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Oct 30 11:42AM -0600 >> >> Hi Lou, >> >> I can confirm your findings. Here’s what I do to get around this for now. >> >> 1. After activating a link in the first frame, press tab until you reach an >> item in the other frame. >> 2. If it is a link you wish to affect, press return after tabbing to it. >> >> This is where things get inconsistent. Sometimes, I can Interact with >> whatever I’ve tabbed to and then VO focus restores but not as often as I’d >> like. It appears that when using VO navigation, including the Item Chooser, >> most of the elements aren’t being noticed by VO. If you tab though, they are >> workable, but not really in a VO way. What I mean here, is that using VO >> commands makes it lose focus again whereas using OS commands like tab and >> return will perform the task. I’ve also noticed that, only sometimes, a >> Refresh of the page will help. >> >> So, overall, I probably have only confirmed your findings and only given you >> half-baked work-arounds. Hope it helped a little. >> >> Later… >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> >> Stopping VO Speech >> Scott Rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> Oct 30 12:05PM -0400 >> >> Hello, >> >> I am having a bit of trouble with stopping VO when it gets too verbose. I am >> running Mavericks on a 2012 MacBookPro with Retina. >> >> Whenever I try and stop VO from talking by pressing the Control key nothing >> happens. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem may be. I >> have already tried resetting VO to the defaults but this doesn’t change the >> behavior . >> >> Thanks for any help, >> >> Scott Rumery >> >> don bishop <w6...@donbishop.org> Oct 30 09:15AM -0700 >> >> Using an imac and mavericks, I've seen this but it'snot consistent. >> Sometimes control will work, but it's sluggish. >> Don >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Scott Rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Date: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:05 am >> Subject: Stopping VO Speech >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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