Hi, Mouse Keys without a NumPad is accomplished with the 7, 8, 9, u, i, o, j, k, l and m keys. The 7, 8, 9 are obviously the 7, 8 and 9 keys of the NumPad. The u, i and o keys relate to the 4, 5 and 6 keys of the NumPad. The j, k and l keys relate to the 1, 2 and 3 keys of the NumPad. Finally, the m key is the 0 of the NumPad. Make sure to not leave Mouse Keys turned on as it can also mess up some command key functions.
HTH. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote: > How can you use mouse keys without a numpad? I’ve tried over 15 times to > close preview pane using track pad! Funny, I did it in Mountainlion the first > time I tried! > > > You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding > Sent from my Mac Book Pro > richr...@gmail.com > > On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I got it turned off permanently, but it takes some intuitive action with >> whatever mouse manipulation is your preferred one. I use mouse keys, because >> they’re independent of VO, and I can be assured that I track straight. >> >> Teresa >> >> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >> Feynman >> >> On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> No, this is not the case. The issue is that, at least so far, if Preview >>> Pane is active, you’ll need to turn it off while in Classic View and it >>> will be applied to both views. Some folks here have had problems with it >>> sticking but I have not. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So, does this mean you cannot turn off preview in standard mode with >>>> Mavericks Mail now? >>>> >>>> If this is the case, then another reason for me to stay back on Mountain >>>> Lion. >>>> >>>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> hey, >>>>> i love modern view it stops a lot of the VO chatter so i think i will >>>>> stay with it myself. >>>>> On 28 Oct 2013, at 2:56 am, Buddy Brannan <bu...@brannan.name> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> While you can switch back to modern view, your settings won’t stick. If >>>>>> you close your message view window after making the change to eliminate >>>>>> the preview pane, or if you exit mail and go back in, the preview pane >>>>>> is back. At last, that’s what happened to me after I made the change. >>>>>> Only way to make the preview pane stay gone is to stay in class view. A >>>>>> shame, because I’ve kinda gotten to like modern view. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Teresa Cochran >>>>>> <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I find it easiest to do this in full-screen mode, command-control F for >>>>>>> Mail. Turn mouse keys on. Switch to classic view in Mail preferences. >>>>>>> You can use vO to place the mouse. Just navigate to the message table, >>>>>>> but don’t interact with it. VO-right once and you should reach the >>>>>>> horizontal splitter. Press control-VO-f5 to place the mouse there. >>>>>>> Press the zero/insert key on the numpad once to lock the mouse down, >>>>>>> then press and hold the six/right-arrow key on the numpad till you hear >>>>>>> VO’s focus changing. this can take several seconds. Then press the >>>>>>> period/delete key on the numpad to release the mouse. Double-check to >>>>>>> be sure the horizontal splitter and preview pane are gone. At this >>>>>>> point, you can switch back to modern view in Mail preferences if you >>>>>>> wish. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HtH, >>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Slow down; you'll get there faster. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Kliphton ------- >>>>>>> <kliphton....@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks like I still have a lot to learn. How do you place the mouse >>>>>>>> pointer where you want it. Also, when you say you push numpad >>>>>>>> period, what key do you push on the numpad? Or maybe I am miss >>>>>>>> understanding? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kliphton >>>>>>>> (iMessage&Email) kliphton....@outlook.com >>>>>>>> (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72 >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Teresa Cochran" >>>>>>>> <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I use mouse keys, which is an accessibility feature you can enable in >>>>>>>> the accessibility dialog, command-option-f5. Once you turn these on, >>>>>>>> they actually move the real mouse pointer. I put mail in classic view, >>>>>>>> then move to the right of the messages table, and place my mouse >>>>>>>> pointer on the horizontal splitter. I press the 0 key on the keypad >>>>>>>> once, and this locks the mouse down. then I hold down the number 6 >>>>>>>> key, which moves the mouse to the right. When I hear VO say something >>>>>>>> different, I release the mouse key with numpad period. I like using >>>>>>>> this method, because I don’t track straight with a traditional mouse >>>>>>>> or the trackpad, but this way ensures that I do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HtH, >>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Debbie April Yuille >>>>>>>> <debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Teresa >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How do you disable the preview pane? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Debbie >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:02 AM >>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As an additional note, I notice that with the preview pane disabled >>>>>>>>> and with >>>>>>>>> five preview lines of message text enabled, VO sure reads a lot more >>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>> five lines. 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